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  •  Why wouldn't he? (2+ / 0-)
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    MichaelNY, ArkDem14

    I can't see any reason for a moderate-ish independent to not caucus with the majority party.  

    I expect it is 100% certain he will caucus with the majority (if they let him of course).  And he's said as much, he'll do what is best for Maine (translation: best for him).  He wants some clout, a subcommitte chairmanship, etc.  Caucusing with the minority party would be stupid, especially for a guy likely to serve two terms at most with no Prez ambitons.

    Mr. Gorbachev, establish an Electoral College!

    by tommypaine on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 12:29:12 PM PDT

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    •  He didn't say with absolution (2+ / 0-)
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      who would be in the majority as being the deciding factor and said that the ME GOP attacking him is not helping their case with him (therefore making it much less likely he even considers caucusing with them).  Also, he was a Democrat so it's only natural for him to side with whom he is more comfortable.  He is moderate as you say, but moderately liberal.  Caucusing with the Republicans would mean having to take 180 degree shifts on almost all of his views or fear punishment from the caucus.

      "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." -Theodore Seuss Geisel

      by KingofSpades on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 12:36:08 PM PDT

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      •  I just said it was the only reason to (2+ / 0-)
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        And I assume he would make zero 180 degree shifts.  That won't happen.  And they won't punish him either.  All they can do is expel him.  There is no way anybody is telling this guy how to vote.

        The bottom line is it is extremely unlikely that he will caucus with the Republicans, mostly because of his own views, partly because it is likely Dems will be in the majority, and partly because if the Reps are in the majority they won't put up with King's ways.

        The caucus thing is much ado about nothing.  he'll caucus with the Dems if they are the majority or if he can make them the majority.  It matters little who he caucuses with if the Reps have a majority on their own, as long as he votes how he wats, which seems a dead cinch with this guy.

        Mr. Gorbachev, establish an Electoral College!

        by tommypaine on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 01:03:17 PM PDT

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        •  They can punish him other than expulsion. (1+ / 0-)
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          they can give him the shittiest committee assignments (if any at all).  Remember how Democrats stripped Jim Traficant of his seniority and committee assignments for voting for Hastert for Speaker?  A caucus can punish its members for significant apostasies.

          "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." -Theodore Seuss Geisel

          by KingofSpades on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 01:07:25 PM PDT

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          •  But that's the point (1+ / 0-)
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            He won't caucus with them if they do that.

            Mr. Gorbachev, establish an Electoral College!

            by tommypaine on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 01:12:35 PM PDT

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            •  Angus is not even on the ballot yet (5+ / 0-)

              I know that it looks like Angus King has already won the election, but he hasn't even turned in the 4,000 signatures to qualify yet.

              This poll was really about name recognition, and since King was governor for 8 years, he has a lot. But he has also been out of office for ten years - those people that remember his name may have lost track of how he did as governor.

              King does have ten challengers - four Democrats and six Republicans. There are already things of note:

              Just three days after King announced that he was running for the Maine Senate seat, the NRSC ran a negative ad against him;

              King's record as governor is beginning to be scrutinized - something that has not actually happened in any thorough way since he left office (as odd as that may seem);

              None of the candidates have any real visible campaign. This poll is really about name recognition not actual candidate support. King, having been governor for 8 years, has that in spades. Matt Dunlap should have performed better, seeing as he is a former Sec of State.

              On the Republican side, Summers ran against and lost to Rep. Chellie Pingree in 2008; while State Treasurer Bruce Poliquin has done everything possible to get his mug out front.

              Form follows function -- Louis Sullivan

              by Spud1 on Sat Apr 07, 2012 at 08:35:08 PM PDT

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    •  I can see a lot of reasons why he wouldn't (2+ / 0-)
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      MichaelNY, EJP in Maine

      Namely, that the "majority party" is not that strong in Maine. Yes, the House, Senate, and Governor's mansion are controlled by Republicans, but that more reflects horrendous Democratic disorganization in the last election that it does cohesion on the part of Republicans. The current GOP administration led by Paul LePage is disorganized and embarrassingly dysfunctional, and the focus on cutting taxes for wealthy business owners when schools and seniors aren't getting what they need has not gone unnoticed (or unprotested). The recent flap over MaineCare is just the tip of the iceberg. Don't forget, more people in this state voted for a candidate OTHER than LePage in the last gubernatorial election, and many of those who were in his camp then are unhappy with what they've gotten from him since then. So, yeah... identifying himself with the Maine GOP would not necessarily be King's smartest move right now.

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