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  •  Yeah, I think we've given enough (14+ / 0-)

    for ten lifetimes.  Time for the corporations, the hereditary rich, and the bigots to give.  And give.  And give.  Until we can honestly say this country has made net progress since the disaster of the Reagan administration.

    Technology is a compromise: You can use whatever tool you choose, but be assured it will use you back.

    by Troubadour on Sat Apr 07, 2012 at 06:12:45 PM PDT

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    •  i also want (6+ / 0-)

      ALL of my tax deductions back the Raygun took away from us!  Remember when we could deduct car, credit card interest from OUR taxes?
      We have lost so much and they have gained so much.
      Excellent rant along wirh the OWS statement diary.
      Now, how do we achieve that when we can't even f-cking protest without getting the shit beat out of us.
      Our government and it's agencies are so corrupt and powerful.
      Hell, they SWAT raid your house if you are even planning to protest.

      OBAMA'S GUIDING PRINCIPLES: HOLD NO ONE ACCOUNTABLE. LOOK FORWARD.

      by snoopydawg on Sat Apr 07, 2012 at 09:28:13 PM PDT

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      •  as Troubadour said; (7+ / 0-)

        "we have to go farther than we have asked Obama to go".

        Which, to answer your question, means we will likely have to sustain some beatings, and take them nonviolently, just like the peaceful protestors all over the world. It sucks, but that is the road in front of us.

        Class war has consequences, and we are living them.

        by kamarvt on Sun Apr 08, 2012 at 06:23:24 AM PDT

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        •  What I'm about to ask may be risky (3+ / 0-)

          around here but I think it deserves to be addressed. Throughout history non-violent civil disobedience has been effective but now the rulers have no respect for that.

          At what point do we consider them sending SWAT teams to bash skulls just for speaking out to be an act of aggression, no, an act of WAR? And when does it become legitimate to fight back - to exercise self-defense?

          I don't want all of us to just suffer and die for our beliefs. I want to fight for them, and to WIN.

          liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

          by RockyMtnLib on Sun Apr 08, 2012 at 10:37:36 AM PDT

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      •  I want all our constitutional rights back and (2+ / 0-)
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        Troubadour, Great Lakes Liberal

        the 40 hour work week.  In fact, I want more.  I want health care to be de-coupled from employment and have medicare for all.  I want to legalize and regulate drugs.

        •  Indeed, but I also want all of those things (0+ / 0-)

          prioritized rationally.  We need to make clear that these are our goals, and then competently determine how to go about them.  

          Technology is a compromise: You can use whatever tool you choose, but be assured it will use you back.

          by Troubadour on Mon Apr 09, 2012 at 07:56:21 AM PDT

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