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  •  pretty petty (none)
    Making fun of her language skills is pretty petty, in my mind.  It would be one thing if she didn't know the first thing about the language, but clearly she does.  She also probably doesn't practice it very often, which really is to be expected.  It would be like if I put on my resume that I was proficient in a computer language I hadn't used in 15 years.  I could pick it up again if necessary, but I would need a little time - I wouldn't be able to do real time programming.

    Ina similar vein, when non-English speakers make an attempt to communicate in English, I don't criticize even if there is trouble getting the point across.  These difficulties are to be expected.

    Bush's Spanish skills are a different matter - he's so damn cocky about it.  

    •  NOT the point. (4.00)

       The point is that her and her WH handlers and the Media Whores were long meming the demonstrable lie that she was "fluent in Russian".  Did you actually READ the diary and the examples cited?

       So "little lies" are o.k.?  That the Bush Admin so easily and fluidly and casually lies IS an issue.  This is a "small lie" that's exposed.  It's an EXAMPLE of the entire Bush Admin s.o.p.  

       BenGoshi
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      by BenGoshi on Wed Apr 20, 2005 at 10:50:45 AM PDT

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      •  fair enough (none)
        I did read the examples, but I guess I just don't think this is that big of a deal.  I don't consider  the fact ther her language skills are rusty to mean that claims of fluency are lies, even little ones.  At worst, they are exagerations.  It isn't really similar to saying that before 9/11 she was "deeply concerned" about terrorism, which is a lie.
        •  In my mind (none)
          it hurts Dr. Rice's whole credibility.  How can you be a Russian expert without being fluent in the language?  Culture and language are so closely related that you really can't understand one without understanding the other.
        •  So what's (none)
          the difference between a big lie ("deeply concerned" about terrorism pre 911)and a little lie (speaking fluent Russian) ??  Oh, that's right, a little lie is an exageration.  Iraq has WMD = BIG LIE  "I completed my Guard duty" = exageration.

          Wish the hell my parents would have bought the little lie = exageration BS when I was a kid.

          "If fighting for a more equal and equitable distribution of the wealth of this country is socialistic, I stand guilty of being a socialist." Walter Reuther

          by fugwb on Wed Apr 20, 2005 at 02:46:44 PM PDT

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      •  actually, it's worse than that. (4.00)
        if she went on radio, she seems to have believed she was fluent. what does that tell you about bushco's grasp on reality?

        We get a lot of advice. We tend to listen when somebody's won something. - Joe Lockhart

        by yankeedoodler on Wed Apr 20, 2005 at 01:59:44 PM PDT

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    •  How many GOP (4.00)
      (and maybe some DEM) Senators repeated this lie and one of qualifications for SOS during her confirmation hearings and the debate?

      What FDR giveth; GWB taketh away

      by Marie on Wed Apr 20, 2005 at 02:24:52 PM PDT

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