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  •  There *are* effective limits to human population (6+ / 0-)

    because people can't eat photons or electricity. We are limited by our physiology and the physiology of plants. We aren't limited by our ability to message each other on the Internet, but by water resources and agriculture -- both under assault from global warming.

    The obscenities of the rich are the driving factor of our politics today. But the underlying biophysical reality -- the real real world -- is that there are already way too many humans on this planet for sustainability, and that there will be many fewer humans on Earth in the future.

    •  You're wrong about that. (0+ / 0-)
      But the underlying biophysical reality -- the real real world -- is that there are already way too many humans on this planet for sustainability...
      Simply untrue. The issue is not one of the number of people on the planet. The issue is lifestyles.

      There are too many people consuming too much. You can solve that problem by having fewer people OR by having the people who are here use up fewer resources.

      Barack Obama: So morally bankrupt that he thinks people who tortured other people to death should get a pass. Likes to prosecute whistleblowers and pot smokers, though.

      by expatjourno on Mon Apr 09, 2012 at 01:42:59 PM PDT

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