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  •  People had a different view of homosexuality (1+ / 0-)
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    in the past, and the period when it started coming out of the shadows was bound to reflect the struggle involved in changing attitudes.
    There is a trajectory toward acceptance and the society's in flux. Eventually we will go back to a condition where homosexuals are not noticed as such so much, and there will be about 10% or so of the population who discover themselves to be gay. The only difference is that gays  won't have to deal with the discrimination , homophobia, violence, suicide and self-loathing that they had to in the past.  

    I'd rather have a buntle afrota-me than a frottle a bunta-me.

    by David54 on Mon Apr 09, 2012 at 03:59:12 PM PDT

    •  They've also had different views about race (3+ / 0-)
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      Chrislove, teloPariah, Tennessee Dave

      and gender.  As true as what you're saying is, I hope you're not trying to defend any of these people.

      All it takes is security in your own civil rights to make you complacent.

      by Dave in Northridge on Mon Apr 09, 2012 at 04:06:25 PM PDT

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      •  I'm not defending them in any way whatsoever. (2+ / 0-)
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        Dave in Northridge, Ahianne

        If they haven't changed yet, they're equivalent to the George Wallace voters who couldn't accept the end of segregation.
        A few years ago, I was re-involved in higher education and took a class in the history and philosophy of sociology.
        One thing that really stuck with me was the idea of social evolution, not just that societies change, but in fact societies are constantly in flux, mutating, evolving, changing.
        Any world view that imagines static, rigid conditions for society is seen as doomed. North Korea is a good example of an authoritarian system enforcing a false static condition on its society.
        There are just too many factors in addition to the folly of homophobia that are working against these authoritarians. Straights like sex too, and don't want these people busting into their bedrooms either. Women want equality with men. Etc. Eventually the mythology that supports homophobia falls by the wayside because it's not sustainable by the facts. Eventually men become more secure in their sexuality and don't feel the need for sounding manly (i.e. homophobic).

        I'd rather have a buntle afrota-me than a frottle a bunta-me.

        by David54 on Mon Apr 09, 2012 at 06:23:55 PM PDT

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    •  that they had a different view back in the day (3+ / 0-)
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      S F Hippie, hepshiba, Tennessee Dave

      is one thing.

      that they have not chosen to disavow those views in today's world is quite another.

      hope springs eternal and DAMN is she getting tired!

      by alguien on Mon Apr 09, 2012 at 04:23:44 PM PDT

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