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  •  It's tragic that rhetoric has such a bad name. (4+ / 0-)

    It has become falsely synonymous, even among highly educated people, with evasion or obfuscation, when instead it's merely a set of common rules to permit meaningful debate and logical persuasion.

    •  Right. The definition is simpler (2+ / 0-)
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      dotdash2u, Ralphdog

      ...than some people apparently want it to be.

      Similar with "propaganda" — though one can see the sneaky reasoning behind that, as the corporate media would have to admit that propaganda is their entire business if they had to be honest.

      What irritates me to no end is the pervasive media misuse of "begging the question" as synonymous with "raising a question". Wrong wrong wrong. People raise questions all the time without citing a premiss as its own proof!

      Tell Congress: DON'T BREAK THE INTERNET! Learn about the OPEN Act.

      by Brown Thrasher on Tue Apr 10, 2012 at 11:08:55 AM PDT

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      •  Precisely. Yet another example of the failure of.. (0+ / 0-)

        American education. Even (nominally) highly educated people these days are all to likely to be profoundly ignorant of the most basic principles of logic and reason.

    •  Rhetoric has a bad name (1+ / 0-)
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      mahakali overdrive

      for the same reason that people are afraid of chainsaws.

      How do you like that rhetoric?

      I've lost my faith in nihilism

      by grumpynerd on Tue Apr 10, 2012 at 04:01:59 PM PDT

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