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  •  Isn't interesting that Rick Warren's income is (13+ / 0-)

    not subject to the same taxes as your income?  Rich/Rick is  non-profit, don't you know.

    Time to reconsider church exemptions, especially for church's that are politically active.

    "'s difficult to imagine what else Republicans can do to drive women away in 2012, unless they decide to bring back witch-hanging. And I wouldn't put it past them." James Wolcott

    by Mayfly on Mon Apr 09, 2012 at 05:16:23 PM PDT

    •  His personal income is. (1+ / 0-)
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      The income of the church, not so much.

      Of course, I would assume that his car, house, and staff are owned by the church, not him personally.

      •  but there are SO many ways to hide earnings of (0+ / 0-)

        a pastor.  Most of us pay rent, make car payments, pay for health insurance out of our pay checks.  NOT Rev. Warren and his ILK.  They live off the hard earned money of their congregations.  

        •  It gets rendered as 'allowances' provided to (1+ / 0-)
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          purchase cars, homes, health insurance, tax-deferred pension annuities, education allowances, computers, books & media allowances, reimburse mileage, and pay for things like furniture and home office expenses.  So, a pastor ostensibly salaried at $100,000 ends up converting maybe 40% to 50% of that into allowances.  A pastor getting $200,000 is likely to be converting an even higher percentage into allowances and tax deferred annuity contributions.  There is likely to be 'living trusts' used to shelter property, securities, and income producing investments.

          The idea here is to not render unto Caesar (US Treasury in this case) anything they can possibly avoid rendering.  The IRS tries to take some of these financial sheltering shenanigans into account and has pastors add back in housing allowance for the purposes of Social Security and Medicare obligations.

          When life gives you wingnuts, make wingnut butter!

          by antirove on Mon Apr 09, 2012 at 07:11:14 PM PDT

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