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  •  And by way of further (8+ / 0-)

    comments, I suspect many would have far more sympathy for progressive Christians and that there would be far fewer pie fights here if they simply sided with the marginalized and oppressed on these issues without qualification or caveat, rather than perpetually advancing the thesis that you're the victims or making the discussion about you.  I know that's hard to do, but put your own ethical principles where your action is.  It's not about you.

    •  You fail to grasp that it is genuinely (2+ / 0-)
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      offensive when people make overly broad condemnations of Christians, especially Catholics, as happens here hundreds of times a day.  

      Objections to that are most certainly not always illogical, and it is false to say that they always harm the marginalized and oppressed.  

      It is also false to claim that the objectors always claim to be victims.  Sometimes they're just pissed to see yet more bigotry.  

      And in these instances the bigots always paint themselves as heroes.  In short, I think this diary is founded on false assumptions and actually enables bigots, which ends up being harmful to the marginalized and oppressed.

      •  Oh, I understand it, (5+ / 0-)

        I just think there's something deeply unChristian about Christians, who are the majority and who enjoy overwhelming privilege in this country, making discussions about oppression discussions about how they are being oppressed.  It hurts white people's feelings when African Americans talk about racism.  Those of us who are mature recognize the racism, don't make the discussion about us, and help to fight it.

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