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  •  Professional Experience... (27+ / 0-)

    A co-worker (contractor) would come to me daily since I was not only performing technical and procedural writing but assisting in the personnel control for the department in which I was working. I was not 'in charge' of those records, but I had access and could perform updates as required.

    He started asking me more and more about software and on various points for how the dept. policy for procedures required specific formats be used etc. He also became very interested in other documentation that was open and visible for me due to my responsibilities but he wanted to 'see' it and get copies. - Something I would not do.

    I gave him an overview of the software and how we used it twice and I was informed after the second day by one of my direct co-workers that this had been covered by each of them with the same person more than once and that he should know what I was showing him - though they did say they wanted to go through it with me so we could all share our individual knowledge pieces and improve, so in that respect, I earned some credit for knowing something they did not expect me to know about immediately or without guidance....but...

    He came back again, and he started pressing for document.
    Finally, there was a day he was in absolute tears and he admitted he had no knowledge of certain software or how o use it, format it.  Behind that, he demanded I provide him with documents I had been working on which involved our New Drug Application and were need to know (which he did not).

    I sat down with my team and we documented our experiences, each of his verbal requests, printed off any email references for requests, and we build the issue facing the team, but me specifically since he was not accusing me of...something.  It went to management and management investigated finding others who had had this same person attempt to steal their documentation and have this person present it as his own.

    In a check of his resume', we found software which he maintained himself as expert, was the very same software he was crying he could not use.

    Management eventually got rid of him and since I had worked with my team and we handled things through the chain of command, I made the place home a lot sooner than anticipated. The job did not last as the 2007 downturn hit, but they gave me advance notice and its a place I still miss. It was a good job and there were many good people there.

    But, the person who was fired...He lied on his resume... someone else might have gotten the job had he not lied.  I do my utmost not to embellish my resume'. At some point, someone will look at my resume' and might expect me to do what I say I can do. If I can't, what does that say about me? It speaks very poorly at minimum.

    He attempted to steal from others work, not just me, but several others. He made a general nuisance of himself. He tried to gain access to documentation which he did not need or require or have permission to view.
    And worst for him, he thought he was clever.

    It's not the same, but he was doing his utmost to cheat in an environment where he had to deliver and he could not measure up because he lied, he cheated his way into a position he could not perform. Even if he could have performed it, he misrepresented himself and set himself up to fail because the expectation was that he could do what he stated he could do on his resume'.

    For me, it was another example of why cheating and lying does not help. If I stick to the truth, I never have to remember what lie I told, or to whom, and about what.

    -6.38, -6.21: Lamented and assured to the lights and towns below, Faster than the speed of sound, Faster than we thought we'd go, Beneath the sound of hope...

    by Vayle on Wed Apr 11, 2012 at 01:41:28 PM PDT

    •  This is a great example of how (19+ / 0-)

      winners never cheat and cheaters never win. Sooner or later, it catches up to you. I read someone else's comments recently about a similar situation. She's been hired as a contract worker with a major industrial company to update code. It requires she KNOW the old code and also how to convert it and get it into production. SHE knows her stuff. There is another co-worker whose work, work ethic, and general ethics are highly suspect, and he has tried to pin problems he is having on other team members.

      Spare us ALL from co-workers like that!!

      Thanks for your comment. I really appreciate hearing your story.

    •  It's a cultural thing (9+ / 0-)

      Realize that in some cultures the stronger are EXPECTED to help the weaker along.

      They don't see it as cheating.

      In my experience it tends to be a Mediterranean things--I taught at a private Turkish school (where admin changed a grade for an admitted cheater) and currently I teach Spanish, Italian and Greek kids (among others)

      My message is usually you're no longer in your culture, so adapt and take the zero.

      •  Thanks. (2+ / 0-)
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        I know there are cultural differences but don't know just how that impacts behavior specifically. Most of my students are midwestern, Iowa or Illinois kids. But we've recruited more and more from China, especially in the last few years. When I spoke with the dean yesterday, he did say that a lot of them don't come in understanding expectations. I guess that's it.

      •  This guy would not get a pass on the 'culture' (4+ / 0-)

        excuse.  We worked in a multi-ethnic/multi-national employee base environment too, but this guy was your typical average American on the surface.

        I understand the cultural references, but I've found that more than help/cheating/assistance, there is a large divide amongst other nationalities that see politeness and disagreement as more of a problem. By problem, I mean, they are so used to polite discourse, they will be overly polite and agree to things which later, when asked to perform, they politely disagree on the requirement to perform.

        It goes back to training environments where the trainee says they understand but really do not. Some of the passive aggressive tendencies are so ingrained, they see any disagreement (no, I do not understand, show me again, show me a different way to do that), as being impolite.

        I've coached a few people who, after feeling as if I was being mean or overly aggressive, slowly came to realize that my personal ownership of certain things pushes my decision making process to do what is in the best interest of the accounts on which I work. Even with that ownership though, I keep things non personal when it comes to managing things. Once they take the personal out of it and realize, this is the process that the company expects, and that is best to serve the customer, they begin to see that polite and congenial is still possible, but more importantly, doing so while challenging others is still possible without blame being a factor.

        I've had the pleasure of several people of different cultural norms ask me to be there to guide how they approach dealing with others and in relating policy to others in such away that they can resolve problems without the need to place blame. I know there is always a root cause and that won't go away, but what we focus on is fixing problems, and others can worry about assignment of blame. When your efforts become about the blame and not about the process improvement on that which is being looked at, I find one has chosen a losing path because placing blame very easily becomes a personal issue to many.

        You mentioned Mediterranean, but I have sen this kind of attitude of non challenging, non questioning over politeness in various South American nationalities, as well as Asian and Indian. It does make me realize maybe we're not as polite here in America and I try to measure that with my words when I communicate because when one is trying to pull any team together to improve an overall process which is deficient, one still has to evaluate oneself and how others are responding.

        -6.38, -6.21: Lamented and assured to the lights and towns below, Faster than the speed of sound, Faster than we thought we'd go, Beneath the sound of hope...

        by Vayle on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 06:54:42 AM PDT

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      •  I had a similar experience (2+ / 0-)

        when my student body was heavily Asian, Turkish, and Indian.  They would copy material verbatim from books on essays.  Within their cultural framework learning means having the answers and having the answers means repeating what the experts said.  They didn't know they were cheating.  It was a tremendous challenge, as a philosophy professor, to convey the idea of original work and that it wasn't acceptable to simply copy.

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