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  •  *sigh* The diary is about (6+ / 0-)

    U.S. racism. Specifically.  It's addressed in terms of U.S. history.  "Peculiar institution" and all that.  Did you read the diary?  Some U.S. ideas of racism were exported to Europe (Hitler loved Jim Crow, and it served as a model for the anti-Jewish laws) along with U.S. anti-Indian policy (it wasn't called the Lublin Reservation for nothing), but of course the Jews in Europe in the 20s and 30s were not attempting to assimilate on the same framework as Jewish Americans in that time period.  If you want to understand antisemitism in Europe, read Raul Hilberg.  If you want to understand racism in the U.S., read Omi & Winant. One size does not fit all.  Sheesh.

    "If you fake the funk, your nose will grow." -- Bootsy Collins

    by hepshiba on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 04:20:45 PM PDT

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    •  my point is that there are intrinsic complexities (2+ / 0-)
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      within all ethnic identities and I don't believe that the choice to self-identify with 'white' or self-identify with 'black' was the default framework for all assimilation in the U.S.  No, I haven't read Omi & Winant.

      •  And my point is that there (6+ / 0-)

        is no choice.  The white/black divide exists in the U.S. and immigrants have to negotiate it in their own unique fashion. There's always a push-me-pull-you aspect to inner- and outer-defined identity.

        We simply disagree on this.  And you might find Omi & Winant very interesting, not just for what they have to say about black identity, but all sorts of identity.

        "If you fake the funk, your nose will grow." -- Bootsy Collins

        by hepshiba on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 05:09:19 PM PDT

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