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  •  Your evasiveness isn't working (0+ / 0-)

    The precedent being discussed is the private mandate.

    You can play silly semantic games forever, but it won't help your legal argument.  The claim that no precedent is necessary doesn't seem to have passed muster since the very issue is before the Court on an accelerated schedule.  Actually, even if they were to rule that existing precedent covers it, the fact that they took it up is proof that this was not settled as you are claiming.

    And if the ruling comes out tomorrow that the mandate is unconstitutional you will be retroactively wrong as well.  That's the silliness of the semantic argument you are making.  For example, one can claim that since something was passed by congress it is constitutional even if it was a virtual certainty that it would be stricken down by the court.  

    Now it is time to turn the sword on its former master.  Of course, some people really do not care about the constitution, just the result. <==  From here it looks like that charge could better be leveled at you since this seems to be about saving ACA by allowing a constitutionally undecided private mandate.  The private mandate is a tool that business conservatives can use against the interests of consumers.  By supporting it you are playing into the hands of conservatives who make the charge that the left plays fast and loose with the constitution by waving their hands and saying the Commerce clause will allow anything.  It never ceases to amaze me how frequently Democrats carry the water for business conservatives and don't even realize they are doing it.  

    Obviously those keen legal minds and constitutional law professors leading the party did not factor in the relative plasticity of interpreting the Commerce clause...and that it would be done by a conservative Court that might take this as excuse to narrow the limits--something that is within their authority to do.  No, the "we-passed-a-law-therefore-it-is-constitutional, because-we-say-it-is" mindset seems to have prevailed.  From the snippets I saw posted at dKos of the questions and responses in court, that doesn't appear to be too far off.

    The private mandate may very well open Pandora's box.  The Court is presently jiggling the key in the lock but we aren't yet sure if it will open the box or what awaits inside.

    "Money is like manure. You have to spread it around or it smells." J. Paul Getty

    by Celtic Pugilist on Mon Apr 16, 2012 at 02:36:32 PM PDT

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