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  •  Of course I'm not retracting. (2+ / 0-)

    Did you read what I said?  I'm using "religious institution" to mean, for example, Catholic universities who call themselves religious institutions.  And they ARE religious institutions.  That's why I provided those links as examples.  Those Catholic universities are owned and run the Catholic church, and operate pursuant to a specific Catholic mission statement.  That's a religious institution -- specifically, a Catholic institution.  Look at those links -- those institutions are, as they proudly assert, religious institutions.  

    Those religious institutions, like Boston College, Georgetown, Loyola, and the Catholic University, are different from churches, and they are treated differently under the regulation from churches, and so I disagree with Jed's use of the words "religious institution" interchangeably with "church."  

    The Catholic University is, as it says, "a Catholic and American institution of higher learning."  It's a Catholic institution.  

    •  Well then we aren't saying the same thing then (3+ / 0-)
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      Your unique definition of the term "religious institution" to include non-theological universities, hospital and other secular institutions is hardly a fault of Jed's.

      To be clear, a "Catholic university" can be a religious institution or a religiously affiliated institution.

      It depends on its purpose.

      Jed's accurate description indicates that where the institution ACTIVITIES are religious in nature, then they are exempt from the mandate.

      When the institution's activities are secular in nature - a hospital or a nonsectarian educational institution, then they are not exempt from the mandate.

      A very simple and sound concept that embodies the fundamental value of separation of church and state.

      •  I think you misunderstood me. (1+ / 0-)

        By religious institutions, I was speaking of an institution, like a university, that states in its mission statement that its purpose is to be a Catholic institution.  Like this and this and Holy Cross College and Notre Dame and Gonzaga.

        These are (1) Catholic universities -- that is, religious institutions; and (2) they are not exempt from the policy.  Do you disagree?  

        I am not arguing with you about whether they SHOULD be exempt.  I am simply saying that, while the employees of a Catholic Church are exempt, the employees of a Catholic University -- a religious institution -- like Notre Dame or Holy Cross are not exempt.  That is factually accurate.  

      •  And, by the way (1+ / 0-)
        Your unique definition of the term "religious institution" to include non-theological universities, hospital and other secular institutions is hardly a fault of Jed's.
        All of the universities I named are Catholic universities.  I don't know why you think I included "non-theological" universities.  Unless you don't think Catholicism is a theology.    

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