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  •  The ludicrous puritanical streak and mean (4+ / 0-)
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    suspicion among the RW is so churchy. The Founders knew morality can not be imposed from above.  Now kids will have to sneak off and hold hands and hand holding will increase as well as the inevitable activity I learned about teaching high school for years and watching monkey island at the zoo one afternoon.  Very similar places in reality.

    The govt can't keep the Koch's from polluting cause that is a govt intrusion but can order the rape of a pregnant woman with a 10" wand and keep kids from holding hands.

    The proper place of religion in society as expressed by Rev. John Leland, Jeffersons and Madisons Baptist supporter in the Virginia Religious Freedom act.

    Disdain mean suspicion, but cherish manly jealousy; be always jealous of your liberty, your rights. Nip the first bud of intrusion on your constitution. Be not devoted to men; let measures be your object, and estimate men according to the measures they pursue. Never promote men who seek after a state-established religion; it is spiritual tyranny--the worst of despotism. It is turnpiking the way to heaven by human law, in order to establish ministerial gates to collect toll. It converts religion into a principle of state policy, and the gospel into merchandise. Heaven forbids the bans of marriage between church and state; their embraces therefore, must be unlawful. Guard against those men who make a great noise about religion, in choosing representatives. It is electioneering. If they knew the nature and worth of religion, they would not debauch it to such shameful purposes. If pure religion is the criterion to denominate candidates, those who make a noise about it must be rejected; for their wrangle about it, proves that they are void of it. Let honesty, talents and quick despatch, characterise the men of your choice. Such men will have a sympathy with their constituents, and will be willing to come to the light, that their deeds may be examined.

    Never promote men who seek after a state-established religion; it is spiritual tyranny--the worst of despotism. It is turnpiking the way to heaven by human law, in order to establish ministerial gates to collect toll. John Leland

    by J Edward on Sat Apr 14, 2012 at 03:58:30 AM PDT

    •  The founders (3+ / 0-)
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      ...they indeed knew that the morality could not be imposed from above because the imposed morality is a fake, false morality of pretense. It is not genuine.

      The founders of course were enlightened. These 'chimpanzees' however are not...

      "Corruptio Optimi Pessima" (Corruption of the best is the worst)

      by zenox on Sat Apr 14, 2012 at 05:00:50 AM PDT

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    •  Hallelujah! (3+ / 0-)
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      If pure religion is the criterion to denominate candidates, those who make a noise about it must be rejected; for their wrangle about it, proves that they are void of it
      (emphasis mine)

      "Corruptio Optimi Pessima" (Corruption of the best is the worst)

      by zenox on Sat Apr 14, 2012 at 05:05:33 AM PDT

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      •  Quote comes from the greatest sermon in (3+ / 0-)
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        American history.  You have to love the title.  I also used two parts of it in a widely ignored diary here.  Also has my tag line.

        The Rights of Conscience Inalienable;
        and therefore Religious Opinions not cognizable by Law:
        Or, The high-flying Churchman, stript of his legal Robe, appears a Yahoo

        Never promote men who seek after a state-established religion; it is spiritual tyranny--the worst of despotism. It is turnpiking the way to heaven by human law, in order to establish ministerial gates to collect toll. John Leland

        by J Edward on Sat Apr 14, 2012 at 07:21:12 AM PDT

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