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  •  Obama got 60% of the vote in CT-04 (0+ / 0-)

    a liberal 10 term Republican incumbent lost, and the Democrat held it easily in 2010 against a top Republican recruit. I'd say it's more Democratic than many of the suburban areas of NJ with a similar character.

    I may have been wrong on the Philly suburbs. And I meant htat Rochester was traditionally a Republican area, and Onondaga used to be a swingish county. Democrats have made serious strides becoming stronger in upstate country that used to be Republican and in some of the suburbs. We haven't seen a similar growth in normally Republican areas of NJ. But maybe you can solely attribute that to wealth.

    "Once, many, many years ago I thought I was wrong. Of course it turned out I had been right all along. But I was wrong to have thought I was wrong." -John Foster Dulles

    by ArkDem14 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 at 12:04:39 PM PDT

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    •  Well CT-04 isn't a totally fair comparison (1+ / 0-)
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      since it does contain a big urban area (Bridgeport) and I think Stamford is pretty similar too...Westport is an exception, though (limousine liberals). And Democrats have made progress in traditionally Republican areas in NJ (remember, Republicans held the legislature a decade ago). Bergen County is a pretty good example of this. I think Burlington County is also turning bluer at the local level.

      22, male, RI-01 (voting) IL-01 (college), moving to Japan in July, hopeless Swingnut

      by sapelcovits on Mon Apr 16, 2012 at 12:26:35 PM PDT

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      •  The thing is (0+ / 0-)

        on a federal level (Democrats certainly made big gains locally despite Christie's top of the ticket win suggesting Christie is just voters FU to the political establishment), Bergen started this trend in the 1980s, sped up in the 1990s, and has remained mostly stagnant in in the 2000s. But it is the reason why New Jersey is almost impossible for Republicans in Federal races now.

        "Once, many, many years ago I thought I was wrong. Of course it turned out I had been right all along. But I was wrong to have thought I was wrong." -John Foster Dulles

        by ArkDem14 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 at 12:31:52 PM PDT

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        •  What big gains locally did Dems make in 2009? (0+ / 0-)

          I wasn't really following local races then, but I do remember losing an Assembly seat in a fairly Dem-leaning district (LD-04). And Dems actually did well in Bergen in 2011, both at the county level and with Bob Gordon, Connie Wagner, and Tim Eustace all winning in radically weakened district. Corzine also won it in 2009, although I'm not sure what would have happened if Loretta Weinberg hadn't been on the ticket.

          22, male, RI-01 (voting) IL-01 (college), moving to Japan in July, hopeless Swingnut

          by sapelcovits on Mon Apr 16, 2012 at 12:37:06 PM PDT

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          •  Sorry, I meant 2011 (0+ / 0-)

            Despite Christie throwing his full weight (cue joke) behind the Republican candidates. Christie worked hard, and it was a lower turnout local election and Republicans still lost, right in the aftermath of the 2010 wave, so the optics were understandably bad.

            "Once, many, many years ago I thought I was wrong. Of course it turned out I had been right all along. But I was wrong to have thought I was wrong." -John Foster Dulles

            by ArkDem14 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 at 02:32:03 PM PDT

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