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  •  That has never been true of WI (2+ / 0-)
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    Popular Democrats win WI easily.  Mediocre Democrats are tossup against mediocre Republicans.

    Only Tommy has been an extremely popular Rep since the Pat Lucey era of modern WI politics.

    If Hern Kohl were running for reelection, there would be nothing purple about it.
    Likewise, Obama will once again win easily by double digits.

    2008 was not an aberation.  It was 100% consistent with the state's electoral history for the past 40 years.

    Mr. Gorbachev, establish an Electoral College!

    by tommypaine on Mon Apr 16, 2012 at 12:43:25 PM PDT

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    •  Huh? Have you check, y'know, facts (0+ / 0-)

      about the election returns?  About state history?

      You really need to do so.

      "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

      by Cream City on Mon Apr 16, 2012 at 12:50:02 PM PDT

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      •  Uh, yeah (0+ / 0-)

        You don't seem to have any idea about what you are talking about.

        Start with:

        Proxmire, William
        then move on to
        Kohl, Herb

        Mr. Gorbachev, establish an Electoral College!

        by tommypaine on Mon Apr 16, 2012 at 12:55:33 PM PDT

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        •  1 seat? That's all ya got? (0+ / 0-)

          Now, let's look at the other Senate seat.  Who holds it now?  Who held it before Feingold?

          And then there's the House.  How many times in your lifetime have the Repubs held the majority of House seats in the state?

          And then there's the governorship.  How many years in your life have the Repubs been the govenors?

          And then there's the legislature . . . even without having to look back, you must know that both houses continue to be majority Republican.  And if you do look back, you'll see how rarely the Dems have had at least one house, plus the governorship, to have any impact.  (And even then, if it was a governor like Doyle, we might as well have had a Republican for what he did to public employees alone.)

          "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

          by Cream City on Mon Apr 16, 2012 at 03:14:58 PM PDT

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          •  Senate is evenly split (1+ / 0-)
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            Since the resignation of Galloway, 16-16.

            Fake candidates nominated by the GOP for the recalls: 6 out of 7. Fake signatures on the recall petitions: 4 out of 1,860,283.

            by GeoffT on Mon Apr 16, 2012 at 04:06:59 PM PDT

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            •  Ah, I forget the forgettable (1+ / 0-)
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              Ms. Galloway, since it hasn't made a difference with the legislature not in session from her resignation forward -- and we'll have her replacement by the time it convenes again.  I haven't read much about who's running there, and I wonder what the chances are for the Dems.

              I'm putting more hope into three of the four recalls, of course.  But it's getting so nasty in one of those areas I read about that maybe we can hope for two, anyway.  That will be tenuous but also crucial if Walker wins (or if Walker gets indicted then and we get Kleefisch, ugh).

              "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

              by Cream City on Mon Apr 16, 2012 at 06:11:00 PM PDT

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          •  Why don't you just look it up if you don't know? (0+ / 0-)

            before Feingold, Kasten won two races by just a couple points.

            Mediocre Feingold won a close race and a 10 pointer.
            Mediocre Doyle won 4 and 8 pointers.
            Medicore/loser Gore and mediocre/loser Kerry won close races.

            Lucey won twice by 10 points.  Earl by 15.  Nelson by 25 in 1974.

            Obama won by 14.  Clinton won 5 and 10.  
            Mediocre/loser Dukakis won by only 4.

            You can't pretend the numbers don't exist.  Strong Dems win easily.  Mediocre Dems facing mediocre Reps are toosupish.

            In the past 40 years, several Dems have won the state by large margins.  In that time only Tommy has done that as a Republican.  Even Dreyfus didn't manage a 10% win.

            Mr. Gorbachev, establish an Electoral College!

            by tommypaine on Mon Apr 16, 2012 at 04:20:47 PM PDT

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