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  •  Centrists (2+ / 0-)
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    Supavash, FutureNow

    Leading us to the cliff.  Keep pimping this Grand Bargain stuff with the austerity and we will lose.

    •  Uhmm, Romney is pimping austerity (8+ / 0-)

      with the Ryan plan.....

      •  Kent Conrad for the Democratic Party (3+ / 0-)
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        nimh, Supavash, TJ

        Simpson-Bowles is back.  Not the clear contrast we would hope for.

        •  Obama did not endorse Simpson Bowles (5+ / 0-)
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          nimh, kefauver, Delilah, pademocrat, kalmoth

          Obama has clearly stated that he will raise taxes on the rich.

          •  Position from Obama Speech (1+ / 0-)
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            FutureNow

            The True Centrist veers farther to the right:

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            sn’t it Democrats who have shifted as well? For this to be the case, for the Democratic leader to have co-opted a whole bunch of Republican plans on the biggest economic issues of the day, represents the clear fact that the Democratic Party has ideologically become akin to where a moderate Republican would have stood in the 1960s. And the claim is always that this is a function of politics, that it’s about compromise, it’s about moving things forward. That’s against the entire point of today’s speech! Obama was saying precisely that Republicans are NOT willing to compromise. If these shifts in ideology were about compromise, it would presume that a compromise has actually been reached. But it hasn’t. Democrats have drifted right and Republicans have drifted further right away from them, with common ground still elusive.

            In another revealing moment in the speech – one the President actually said twice, once in the speech and another time in response to a question – he invoked the Bowles-Simpson recommendations for deficit reduction. And he said, very specifically, that his problems with Bowles-Simpson were that they raised too much money in taxes, and that they cut too much in national defense. This was the leader of the Democratic party staking out a position to the right Bowles-Simpson. He didn’t say he objected to raising of the retirement age in that plan, or the Medicare cuts and global budgeting. He objecting to it raising too much revenue and cutting too much of the military budget. He also touted that discretionary spending as a percentage of GDP under him was “lower than it was under Eisenhower,” and that he started “no big new programs to help the poor.”

            Not exactly what most of us are lusting for.
            •  Uhmm....source is firedoglake....not trustworthy (4+ / 0-)

              Show me the actual speech.

              •  From Speech link (0+ / 0-)

                Quoting transcript:

                So let's look at Bowles-Simpson.  Essentially, my differences with Bowles-Simpson were I actually proposed less revenue and slightly lower defense spending cuts.  The Republicans want to increase defense spending and take in no revenue, which makes it impossible to balance the deficit under the terms that Bowles-Simpson laid out -- unless you essentially eliminate discretionary spending.  You don't just cut discretionary spending.  Everything we think of as being pretty important -- from education to basic science and research to transportation spending to national parks to environmental protection -- we'd essentially have to eliminate.
                There are too many stealth RW assumptions in there to list them all.  Centrist third way all the way.
      •  unfortunately lots of people think that's (1+ / 0-)
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        wsexson

        a good thing since the republicans have convinced them that their children will be responsible for the debt.

        all the while they impoverish the children now by stealing from their parents and giving it to Romney and his plutocrat buddies.

        big badda boom : GRB 080913

        by squarewheel on Wed Apr 18, 2012 at 07:58:07 AM PDT

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