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  •  And it's a bitter indictment of this (10+ / 0-)

    supposedly progressive site that so many of us censor ourselves for the sake of electoral advantage.

    I dare anyone here to deny that, had McCain won the election, Daily Kos would be a front and center player in organizing mass protests against this immoral, pointless, wasteful, security degrading misadventure.

    •  Very interesting point. (2+ / 0-)
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      I dare anyone here to deny that, had McCain won the election, Daily Kos would be a front and center player in organizing mass protests against this immoral, pointless, wasteful, security degrading misadventure.
      Makes one wonder if it would have been better in the long run for McCain to have won, since no doubt the outrage factor that swept Obama into office would have grown, potentially into an actually effective force to deal with the Class and Climate Wars...

      With Obama in office, the moderates on "our" side have stuck their heads in the sand, assuming that everything that can be done has been or is being done...

      A moderate is a radical in need of reality therapy.

      by Words In Action on Thu Apr 19, 2012 at 07:43:48 AM PDT

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      •  which leads to an interesting question (0+ / 0-)

        what is the best way to get the Democratic Party to return to supporting Democratic ideals?

        If President Obama wins in November (and I think he will) we will have four more years of moving to the right. We can try to comfort ourselves by saying "2016...we'll get our candidate then".

        But, realistically, all the candidates who have a chance at winning the nomination that year will have to say that Obama's 2 terms were the greatest. It won't be possible to get a nominee who says we lost our way. They'll have to praise Obama, who will still be President as they run.

        If they don't praise him and promise to continue his path then they'll be seen as criticizing the sitting Democratic President, which will turn off a lot of ...um..centrists in the party.

        So an Obama win this year means no left leaning nominee until at least 2020.

        I suppose I shouldn't concern myself with this. The Repubs are feeling the same kind of thing. They want Mussolini but are getting Romney. If you buy into the idea that it's all rigged then there's no point in the exercise. We'll always get two versions of what we don't want, one a "D" and the other an "R".

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