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  •  Is there even a glimmer of hope (4+ / 0-)
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    that such a review would look at ebooks and let me actually OWN AND LEND THE DAMN THINGS THAT I BOUGHT? You know, since I paid pretty much the same price as I would for a hard cover?

    So why doesn't first sale cover ebooks?

    •  If I understand (3+ / 0-)
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      the point your making it is probably because they are trying to create a market for electronic books and get you to have to buy a electronic gadget that is expensive in order to read a book.  

      Just like AT&T is lobbying to get rid of some landlines and force people to have to buy cell phones even if they don't want to because they cost more than land-line phone and AT&T can then force you into buying a bundle package all for their profit and your empty pockets.  We have to support the corporation needs above of own anymore.

      Forcing people into buying technology is the new bubble.

      "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolution­ary act. " George Orwell

      by zaka1 on Sun Apr 22, 2012 at 09:20:11 PM PDT

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      •  No one can force you to buy anything (0+ / 0-)

        Well unless it's health insurance.  But no, AT&T can't force you to buy a phone.  You may not like their prices, but they can't steal your money and give you something you don't want.  Don't like AT&T?  Don't use their services.  What you want is competition to keep them honest.

        But please, no one is forcing you to buy a smart phone, to send text messages, to download internet content, to use Facebook.

        If you don't like the technology or the price, then don't buy it.  That's your power as a consumer.  Don't consume.

        •  I'm sure they're working on this as we speak. (2+ / 0-)
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          Within a generation all Americans will probably be forced to subsidize the Dominionist Christian music industry.

          (Just to assure you that this IS germane to the discussion, the Christian pop licensing is the most mercenary about DRM of any in the business.)

          Tell Congress: DON'T BREAK THE INTERNET! Fight CISPA! Stop Cyber Spying!

          by Brown Thrasher on Mon Apr 23, 2012 at 11:14:07 AM PDT

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        •  You say this with such (0+ / 0-)

          ease, yet you are forced into making purchases in an insidous way.  Cell phones came in mode and all the pay phones started to be removed.  If you travel in a car you almost need a cell phone in case you break down.  TV was free, but now you have to buy a converter box, or pay for TV.  This goes on and on.

          I was not saying that I have ever been forced into buy a smart phone, but the problem become that old technology gets eliminated rapidly and in order to do certain things you almost always end up having to invest in the newest techology.

          I think you must have missed the diary that AT&T is cutting off landline service and forcing people to purchase bundles.  AT&T still is the major owner of the landlines, and other companies still use those original lines for their service, so you can switch, but you'll still run into the same problem of landline being ditched for new technology.  The whole point is many people can't afford cell phone, cable, and computer, plus the cost is continuing to rise and the bundles are giving all companies the opportunity to make a bigger profit.

          They are forcing people to purchase three services in a bundle or nothing.  

          "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolution­ary act. " George Orwell

          by zaka1 on Mon Apr 23, 2012 at 01:08:10 PM PDT

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          •  voice over IP (0+ / 0-)

            There are ways to keep a standard phone and not use AT&T.

            •  Your missing my point (0+ / 0-)

              and it isn't just AT&T

              The phone company notified customers this week that the new bundling requirement, which comes as Verizon loses land-line business as more consumers cut the cord and go mobile, will start May 6. The change will add about $5 to the $25 monthly cost for basic DSL.

              "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolution­ary act. " George Orwell

              by zaka1 on Mon Apr 23, 2012 at 02:52:49 PM PDT

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    •  The (ludicrous) argument is, (5+ / 0-)

      You're not buying a copy of the book/game/other electronic product, you're only buying a (highly limited) license to view/play/use that product.  That's what all those lengthy, unreadable EULAs everyone clicks through are saying.

      •  ROFL, Microsoft....Windows....your fracking (0+ / 0-)

        computer you are currently using to connect to the interwebs...and of course...your phone....


        -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

        by gerrilea on Mon Apr 23, 2012 at 01:16:27 AM PDT

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    •  Because digital copies are perfect and free (0+ / 0-)

      If you buy an actual book, to copy it and give it to a friend requires photocopying and binding every single page.  It's not fast, cheap or easy.

      But a digital copy?  Push one button and a million of your closest friends have the exact same thing you do.  Fast, easy and free.

      We have a serious problem now where people expect information - research, movies, music, everything, to just be free on the internet 24/7.  Well if the content is provided free, who wants to work to create it?  For what?

      I would love to write a sci-fi novel, but I'm not going to if the second I'm done everyone has a free copy.

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