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  •  In that mindset... (1+ / 0-)
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    Balto

    Why do we get upset when conservatives boycott things?  Like down here where I live where quite a few parents took their kids out of Girl Scouts over the whole transgender thing a few months ago.  

    I was never a fan of the Boy Scouts.  I was forced to join once, just like I was forced to join little league soccer.  Hated it.  I'm still not going to boycott them.  I mean, if people are going to boycott for this reason, they'd have to boycott the Red Cross (can't give blood if you've ever had anal sex) and Alcoholics Anonymous (have to believe in a higher power to join the program).  Personally, I'd rather try to change hearts and minds than tear down an organization that besides two policies, (three if you count making kids wake up at 5 in the morning during camp.  Ugh.) does a lot of good.  I have a lot of friends that were Boy Scouts, and they didn't end up gay-hating, fundamentalists either.  

    Bitch at corporate.  Not at the kids.  That's my view anyway.

    •  Based on the diary, no "bitching" occurred. (2+ / 0-)
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      Maybe that's what you envision, but it doesn't sound to me like what actually happened. Seeing that her husband was about to donate, she stopped the donation from happening and explained her reasoning so the kid wouldn't feel like it was personal or meanspirited.

      If you want to financially support the BSA, have at it. But there's something gross about an organization that tells a gay child that he or she is not normal or "morally straight" and must leave. It's a little different than the AA example. A lot different, actually.

      And by the way, "corporate" is not permeable. I was in attendance when Chief Scout Executive Bob Mazucca spoke to my council. Have fun "bitching" to him. He'll tell you how he really feels. Change is not going to come by pleading with the national office.

      Homosexuality is found in over 450 species. Homophobia is found in only one. Which one seems unnatural now?

      by Chrislove on Sun Apr 22, 2012 at 11:07:07 PM PDT

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      •  *he, not he or she...unless (0+ / 0-)

        I preface that with "Scout or Scouter"

        Homosexuality is found in over 450 species. Homophobia is found in only one. Which one seems unnatural now?

        by Chrislove on Sun Apr 22, 2012 at 11:11:36 PM PDT

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      •  Well, we'll just disagree. (1+ / 0-)
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        I don't recall saying she was bitching.  I believe I made the statement "Bitch at corporate.  Not at the kids."  That was advice to anyone reading, not saying what the poster was doing.

        It just rubs me the wrong way.  If I were say, 15 and a Boy Scout, which I was at the time, and the situation had happened to me...  I'd probably have been thinking "Jeez, what an up-tight lady."  Especially after the "No, sorry."  It may not have been said coldly, but that's how it reads, like she was looking down on him for belonging to such a group.  I don't like to make teenagers feel bad.  Hell, his parents may have made him join like mine did!

    •  You do realize that AA doesn't solicit (1+ / 0-)
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      Chrislove

      donations?

      "Boycotting AA" doesn't even make sense.

      This is no different that if they were banning African Americans or Jews.  I'm sorry you don't understand that.

      Nuclear weapons don't kill people, Harry Trumans kill people.

      by JesseCW on Mon Apr 23, 2012 at 07:52:34 AM PDT

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