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  •  Yes. And the opposite is true, too. (2+ / 0-)
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    Joe

    "There is just one way to save yourself, and that's to get together and work and fight for everybody." ---Woody Guthrie (quoted by Jim Hightower in The Progressive Populist April 1, 2012, p3)

    by CitizenJoe on Mon Apr 23, 2012 at 12:37:24 PM PDT

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    •  The price of eternal vigilence is freedom? (2+ / 0-)
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      How disturbing.

      In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'y a aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il y a toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

      by blue aardvark on Mon Apr 23, 2012 at 02:01:52 PM PDT

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      •  I think so. (2+ / 0-)
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        If eternal vigilance means cameras everywhere, governmental data-mining of your library, internet, and phone activity, neighbors warned to report every bit of 'suspicious" activity, and so on: then, yes. Eternal vigilance costs us our freedom.

        "There is just one way to save yourself, and that's to get together and work and fight for everybody." ---Woody Guthrie (quoted by Jim Hightower in The Progressive Populist April 1, 2012, p3)

        by CitizenJoe on Mon Apr 23, 2012 at 06:53:10 PM PDT

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        •  depends on who's looking (1+ / 0-)
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          and for what.

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          by alizard on Tue Apr 24, 2012 at 01:00:27 AM PDT

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        •  The vigilence in this case (0+ / 0-)

          was BY us, against ALEC.

          In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'y a aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il y a toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

          by blue aardvark on Tue Apr 24, 2012 at 06:12:35 AM PDT

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          •  I appreciate that point. (1+ / 0-)
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            And there is a huge difference between the vigilance (and power) of us civilians, and the government.
            My point was simply that that flipping that old saw on its head is a useful caution.
            Joe

            "There is just one way to save yourself, and that's to get together and work and fight for everybody." ---Woody Guthrie (quoted by Jim Hightower in The Progressive Populist April 1, 2012, p3)

            by CitizenJoe on Tue Apr 24, 2012 at 06:17:21 AM PDT

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            •  Fair enough (0+ / 0-)

              In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'y a aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il y a toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

              by blue aardvark on Tue Apr 24, 2012 at 06:20:51 AM PDT

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