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  •  Conspiracy Theories Are Always Interesting... (3+ / 0-)

    Yours is no different.  

    But, you don't seem to be aware of American history.  To bring in Lincoln's security detail to compare he/their drinking to the current embarrassment is ridiculous.  

    The culture during early American history was that nearly everyone drank, and drank often.  That is why whisky ws such an excellent cash crop for farmers like George Washington.  In fact the Army issued a ration of whisky to the troops.  Lewis and Clark nearly lost their troops when their whisky ran out after the first year of their expedition.

    To compare drinking and carousingduring Lincon's time and today is ridiculous.

    •   ridiculous (1+ / 0-)
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      nearly everyone drank,
      not true

      . For much of early American history, men generally did the drinking, and women and children were frequently the victims of alcohol-associated violence and abuse.

    •  Further, although I'm sympathetic with some (4+ / 0-)

      of the questions posed by this diarist, theirs is a view seemingly lacking in depth and subtlety about the human condition.

      I'll bet there are secret service agents who take their jobs very, very seriously indeed - and there are other agents who are simple-minded fuck-ups. I'll bet there were agents after Dallas who were totally grief- and guilt-stricken by their Failure to protect JFK... and there were others who figure that rich, snotty bastard just got what he had coming to him.

      People in real life are not simplistic cartoons of Good and Evil --  unlike most Conspiracy Theories.

      •  good points (0+ / 0-)

        I am sure you're right. As regards JFK I can't imagine the agents on the ground as part of the conspiracy but were ordered by superiors into postions of security impotence.

        JFK was killed by a conspiracy - the theories are who/why etc. but the conspiracy was evil.

        I highly recommend JFK and the Unspeakable by Jim Douglas


        The Later it Gets, The Faster it Gets Late

        by Michael Alton Gottlieb on Tue Apr 24, 2012 at 09:09:52 AM PDT

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    •  good points (1+ / 0-)
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      I agree - not apples to apples - just thought it was an interesting piece of history.


      The Later it Gets, The Faster it Gets Late

      by Michael Alton Gottlieb on Tue Apr 24, 2012 at 09:04:09 AM PDT

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      •  History Is Very Interesting... (2+ / 0-)
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        The interesting thing about conspiracies is that it happens every time two or more people plan something that impacts a third person.

        Unless we are very reclusive, we do it on a regular if not daily basis, especially if we have small children.

        It is possible that the only conspiracies involved with JFK's assasination were not sinister at all.  Since we do not have many facts, we will never know, kind of like the disappearance of Amelia Earhardt.  

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