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  •  Independents are larger now than ever before (5+ / 0-)
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    According to, at roughly 60% of voters.  Independents may not love Obama, but they loathe Romney.

    •  I'd consider myself "independent" (4+ / 0-)

      but for the fact that I absolutely refuse to vote for Republicans and that I like Obama and contribute to his campaign.

      But I'm no party line ideologue.  The Dems lack creativity, they suck ass at marketing themselves, and they are completely bereft of killer instinct, but for crissakes the GOP shouldn't even exist.

      Obama is at war with radical anti-American terrorists. The radical GOP is at war with American women. Take that and run with it DNC, you inept fucking pikers.

      by GOPGO2H3LL on Tue Apr 24, 2012 at 09:24:27 AM PDT

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      •  Granted, "independent" is a very broad term (1+ / 0-)
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        that can include anything from Minarchists to Communists, and every single issue type from Prohibitionists to Greens.  I certainly didn't mean to imply that all independents feel that way.  There is likely some "independent" somewhere who thinks Willard is the savior of America.  It's a big country.

        The Reason survey was of registration among "likely voters."  The number of voters who identify with both parties is shrinking, and therefore the percentage who identify with them is shrinking faster.

    •  If not for some closed primary states, that (1+ / 0-)
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      number could be higher, I am thinking. Like here in PA, I talk to a lot of people who wish they were Independents as they do not want to be part of either party. They want to avoid the phone calls and fundraising calls.  But we live in a closed primary as you will see today when we in PA vote in the primary.

      Our primary results will be determined by Democrats and Republicans and no other party and no Independents.

      Follow PA Keystone Liberals on Twitter: @KeystoneLibs

      by wishingwell on Tue Apr 24, 2012 at 09:31:31 AM PDT

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      •  that's silly. (0+ / 0-)

        If anything, independents get even MORE campaign calls. Or at least, that's the case in California and Nevada. Because indy's (officially called "Nonpartisan" here and "Decline to State" in CA) are always seen as up for grabs, all parties and campaigns call them.

        •  Are your primaries open or closed as my friend (0+ / 0-)

          is an Independent and she gets no calls, maybe a couple around late October but that is it. She gets no calls asking for money for a candidate however and no calls around primaries as we are a Closed primary state.

          Follow PA Keystone Liberals on Twitter: @KeystoneLibs

          by wishingwell on Tue Apr 24, 2012 at 12:08:00 PM PDT

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          •  Our primaries are also closed... (0+ / 0-)

            But in races where there's not much primary action and the general election is the big focus, Nonpartisans are nonetheless called as early as February. While they're obviously not called for fundraising (unless they're already on someone's dialing-for-dollars list), they're called constantly for their votes.

            •  That is interesting as my friend sees little of (0+ / 0-)

              that in SE PA.  She has signed up with the Obama campaign and donates to them so she accepts and expects their calls. But she is not a Democrat and she does not donate to anyone other than Obama. Obama won her over completely.  

              Follow PA Keystone Liberals on Twitter: @KeystoneLibs

              by wishingwell on Tue Apr 24, 2012 at 03:40:22 PM PDT

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    •  They're not really Independents (0+ / 0-)

      They're just posers. True "pure" Independents make up about 10% of the electorate. The rest are other lean Democrat or lean Republican.

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