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  •  time to ratchet up the war: Technical solutions! (16+ / 0-)

    There are technical solutions that at least make it more difficult for them.  

    These need to be implemented more widely.  That includes making them more user-friendly, which they mostly are not at present.  

    The answer to this kind of tyranny is to just "route around the damage."

    "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

    by G2geek on Thu Apr 26, 2012 at 09:37:27 PM PDT

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    •  There are no technical solutions, only temporary (6+ / 0-)

      workarounds.  I would fully expect ISPs to intercept all https connections for monitoring purposes.  Sure you would get a browser warning but you would either accept the invalid certificate or you can't access anything over https.  Other encrypted connections could also be transparently proxied in the same way and either you allow/ignore the MITM attempt or you can't use them.

      Also don't forget that keyloggers that can be plugged into any outlet in your house (or attached to your power meter outside) only cost $500 for a hobbyist to build (mass production will lower that cost to dirt cheap).  Want to bet that the next generation of smart meters will be required to include such hardware  "for national security reasons"?

      There is no saving throw against stupid.

      by Throw The Bums Out on Thu Apr 26, 2012 at 11:15:15 PM PDT

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    •  I remember when Janet Reno (15+ / 0-)

      had the author of PGP arrested.  

      Reno to Congress about private encryption software:

      "Much work remains to be done. In particular, I believe we must soon address the risks posed by electronic distribution of encryption software. Although the Wassenaar Nations have now reached agreement to control th e distribution of mass market encryption software of certain cryptographic stren gth, some Wassenaar Nations continue not to control encryption software that is distributed over the Internet, either because the software is in the "public dom ain" or because those Nations do not control distribution of intangible items. W hile I recognize that this issue is controversial, unless we address this situat ion, use of the Internet to distribute encryption products will render Wassenaar 's controls immaterial."
      -- US Attorney General Janet Reno letter to Federal Secretary of Justice Herta Daubler-Gmelin May '99
      They don't want you (and I mean the paranoid plural as opposed to third person plural) to try to prevent you from spying on them.  It might seem like something within your rights -- to at least TRY to not be spied on through imaginative means.  You might think that it's then their obligation, if they still want to spy on you, to overcome your feeble resistance.

      But they take a simpler approach.  They don't want you to even try to protect yourself from being spied upon.

      Of course, the reason is, you might be a pedophile, or a terrorist, or, worst of all possible worlds, a pedophile terrorist.  Because you might be one of those bad things, nobody anywhere at any time, at any place ever has the right to privacy.  And, really, if you have nothing to hide, why would you worry?

      This is the bipartisan policy of our government.

    •  What do you think of Tor? (1+ / 0-)
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      Tor seems to be getting some publicity over here. It wouldn't stop 'them' from coming for you if 'they' decide you're a specific person of interest, but it might cut down on some of the general snooping.
      If it were robust enough for everyday use and if enough people started using it, would it prove a decent workaround?

      "There's a crack in everything; that's how the light gets in". Leonard Cohen

      by northsylvania on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 07:05:58 AM PDT

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      •  Only if folks don't freeload. (2+ / 0-)
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        If everybody just uses TOR as a proxy, and doesn't run the server software, it gets REALLY SLOW really quick.

        Other than that, I like it. Sorta wish that ya had to run the server to run the client, so everybody had skin in hte game, but I know that would mean that very few people use it at all.

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