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  •  Thing is, we DID spend billions of dollars to (0+ / 0-)

    kill one man (Saddam or Osama, take your pick). And are we safer? We've earned the loathing and distrust of the entire world, methodically given up much of what made us a great nation, and made more enemies than we could possibly neutralize.  They'll hit us again no matter what we do, esp. as we're all still looking for shoe bombers and giving our water bottles to the TSA (pronounced "Tonton Macoute.")

    I sincerely hope Osama's accommodations in hell are to his liking; he's going to be there a while. But come on--how many have suffered and died just for that one man's life? Is the endless flow of blood and treasure really worth it? When I heard that OBL had been killed, I shrugged. He may be wishing now that he'd never been born, but I cannot for the life of me figure how it helps the living.

    •  If you had lived in (2+ / 0-)
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      lower Manhattan on 9/11 as I did you would have no doubt that being absolutely sure that Osama bin Laden is not out there plotting a sequel is certainly a big help to those of us who live in America right now.

      And if you can't see that it helps America to be rid of one of our most amoral enemies ever, well, nothing I can say will ever change your mind.

      Have no doubt that if bin Laden could have scored a "second spectacular" he would have.

      Still enjoying my stimulus package.

      by Kevvboy on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 10:52:33 AM PDT

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      •  What worries me is that there are 100 others (0+ / 0-)

        ready and willing to step into his sandals. Consider the idiotic "We fight them over there so they won't follow us home" idea, that a 6-yr-old could see through. Did the Bushies really believe--or rather, expect Ma and Pa America to believe--that every last militant would stay put, joyously killing our soldiers, instead of having many get into this country by one means or another?

        I keep trying to tell my very extremely Republican friend J. that the actors for the next attack are in place and have doubtless been there for some time, awaiting the signal. It could be an attack on a reactor site, something that kills vast numbers of crops, a cyber attack, who knows? My point is that there are more people out there than ever who wish us harm, and things like Abu Ghraib didn't help win hearts and minds.  J.'s having none of it, I should mention.

      •  But a "second spectacular" is still possible (0+ / 0-)

        with or without OBL alive.  The illusion is that with OBL dead another 9/11 is impossible.  It's all part of the myth that this is a problem that can be solved with military means.

        To believe that markets determine value is to believe that milk comes from plastic bottles. Bromley (1985)

        by sneakers563 on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 11:08:05 AM PDT

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        •  Yes. (0+ / 0-)

          bin Laden was a problem that was solved by military means.

          The thing that was dangerous about OBL was that he had many millions of dollars with which to fund his murderous schemes.  And he was a charismatic leaders for their cause.  Good he's gone on both counts.

          Still enjoying my stimulus package.

          by Kevvboy on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 02:12:00 PM PDT

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    •  I completely disagree. (2+ / 0-)
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      Thing is, we DID spend billions of dollars to
      kill one man (Saddam or Osama, take your pick).
      No, the neocons planned to invade Iraq before 9/11 and simply used the event as a "reason".  The billions spent had everything to do with neocon global domination and oil, and nothing to do with OBL.

      We spent far less actually going after the actual culprit- Bin Laden.

      The money spent in Iraq, and to a large part Afghanistan, had nothing to do with OBL>

      As my father used to say,"We have the best government money can buy."

      by BPARTR on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 11:11:03 AM PDT

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