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  •  My understanding is that they're (12+ / 0-)

    supposed to baptize ancestors. There have been documented cases where this wasn't the case and Anne Frank is one of them. The LDS church has had to apologize numerous times for baptizing Holocaust victims.

    Not saying it's impossible (I'm just pretty darned skeptical) , but what are the odds that Anne Frank, Elie Wiesenthal,and Daniel Pearl all coincidentally had Mormon relatives decide to baptize them and/or family members by proxy?

    We view "The Handmaid's Tale" as cautionary. The GOP views it as an instruction book.

    by Vita Brevis on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 01:56:58 PM PDT

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    •  I know you meant Simon Wiesenthal. Sounds (4+ / 0-)
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      enough like Wiesel to scramble the circuits.

      "The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

      by Lily O Lady on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 02:30:51 PM PDT

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    •  They get by with it... (1+ / 0-)
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      ... IF they can claim the Jewish person is part of their family and the name is submitted in a family tree with others who are part of the LDS person's genealogy.

      They also claim the dead have the right to refuse the posthumous baptism.  However, since no one has been struck by lightning or let the Mormon clergy person doing the baptism know that they don't approve of the ritual, who's going to refute the silence as assent to the posthumous baptism...?

      The dead can't say they made up their minds about religion and which one to follow when they were alive, but posthumously Mormons can claim their church membership is much larger than it ever was when these individuals were alive because they're posthumously baptizing individuals who lived and died long before Mormonism/LDS was ever invented as a religion in the 19th century.

      There are those who say "Well, why be offended? You don't believe the way they do, so ignore them."  True, but it shows respect to the dead who are long gone, and what they believed or practiced in life is belittled and disrespected by the Mormon ritual of posthumously baptizing those who had pride in their own religion (or no religion) when they were alive and practicing their own religion that they believed in (or not, as the case may be).

      If Mormons want to be respected for their religion, they need to respect the choices made by both the living and dead for religions they practice(d).

      I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

      by NonnyO on Sat Apr 28, 2012 at 05:23:05 AM PDT

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