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  •  I'd been vaguely aware of the Mormon (0+ / 0-)

    conversion efforts and sympathized with Wiesel's and others' objections but I had no idea of this:

    —including changing genealogical records to reflect their posthumous conversion, in the process erasing evidence of the magnitude of Nazi Germany's genocidal campaign.
    How could it be possible for them to change genealogical records?   This is a truly hideous affront to all of us, not just Holocaust victims or Jews.  And an affront to the future as well as the past.  

    In some way, too, it gives one an insight into how Romney's brain works if he can't understand what's wrong here and why he should repudiate what his church has been doing.  

    We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. B. Franklin

    by Observerinvancouver on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 02:36:48 PM PDT

    •  Exactly, how is it possible (1+ / 0-)
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      reid fan

      I think that is over-the-top hyperbole.

    •  it's not possible (0+ / 0-)

      Unless the "genealogical records" you're talking about are ones internal to the LDS church. The church has its own records of who has been baptized and who hasn't, and obviously those records change when someone is baptized. People outside the church aren't even supposed to be able to see those records (the website is password protected), so it's not like they're going to some government office in Europe and changing the "genealogical records" there.

      Also, it in no way "erases" anything, even in the internal database it just adds an annotation that the baptism has been done and no other information is "erased."

      Also, according to Mormon theology the baptism does not effect a "conversion," it only makes that door open to the deceased individual's still-sentient/aware spirit, should they choose it.

      Bad form, Jed. Inaccurate hyperbole. Of course, none of this excuses it (which is why the church has tried for years to get members to stop doing it--but you have to understand the effort is crowdsourced to all members, so that's not necessarily easy), and it doesn't excuse Barbour's idiocy.

      The purpose of writing is to inflate weak ideas, obscure poor reasoning, and inhibit clarity. --Calvin & Hobbes

      by reid fan on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 05:31:45 PM PDT

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