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  •  Why can't he just be sorry? (2+ / 0-)
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    Pandoras Box, luckylizard

    Adding "to anyone who was offended" dilutes the meaning of the whole apology.

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    by Chrislove on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 05:12:50 PM PDT

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    •  Only if you're looking for it to (0+ / 0-)

      because otherwise, it doesn't do that, not even a little. You can only apologize to those who are offended. Sorry, but you mis-read what was said at first, and now you're defending your prior position instead of reading the actual words.

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      by dhonig on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 05:14:39 PM PDT

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      •  I did not misread what was said (1+ / 0-)
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        And if you think "screw her straight" implies anything other than force, I have a bridge to sell you. If he meant dinner and a movie, he would have said as much.

        And no, you can just apologize. "To anyone who was offended" seems to relegate those who were offended into a group of crazy, overly sensitive people who need to be appeased. Everyone should have been offended, so the apology should have been to everyone, but especially to the girl he targeted. Whether or not it was his intention to issue a non-apology, I don't know, but words like that have no place in a genuine apology.

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        by Chrislove on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 05:24:28 PM PDT

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    •  why can't he just be FIRED? (1+ / 0-)
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      He can be as sorry as he wants to be, or not, frankly I don't give a damn either way.

      What matters is that anyone in a public position understands really clearly that advocating or joking about child-molestation or child-rape, or lynching, or assassination of elected officials, etc. etc., is 100% unacceptable with zero exceptions, and in exchange for the upside of high pay and celebrity status, they also take on the downside risk of getting their arses kicked the hell out of that job if they cross the line.  

      And that wasn't a run-on sentence.  

      He can be sorry or not as he goes looking for another job.  

      And he can be damn glad we don't have meaningful hate speech and incitement laws, or he'd be cooling his heels in a cell.  

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      by G2geek on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 08:31:38 PM PDT

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    •  That was my first thought. (2+ / 0-)
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      The apologies "to those who were offended" still put the responsibility on the offended, not on the person who did the offensive thing.  Sometimes, fewer words make a bigger impact.  Just using his own words, I've bolded what I think would have done it:

      "I want to genuinely apologize to anyone who may have been offended by what I said," Dieter told listeners today, according to a transcript sent to GLAAD. "I regret what I did say. My comments were inappropriate. They were inexcusable, and just downright stupid. And I want to make it clear; there was absolutely no intention to promote physical or sexual violence."
      Note that I did not include his statement about violence.  You just don't say things like that if there is no violent intent.  Or maybe you do, if you're an irresponsible nutter...

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      by luckylizard on Tue May 01, 2012 at 12:42:33 AM PDT

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