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  •  You're right, it's reprehensible on many levels (0+ / 0-)

    Please read my other comments here.  I've consistently said so.

    My concern is simply whether -- putting aside her legal inability as a minor to give consent -- the guy was advocating forcible rape.

    That's different from -- and way beyond -- simply being reprehensible.  You and I don't disagree about it being reprehensible.  But was it advocating forcible rape?

    (Technically, it was advocating rape, because of statutory rape laws, but society rightly treats statutory rape of a consenting minor (at least beyond a certain age) as being in a different category from violent rape.  I mean advocating forcible rape.)

    Democrats must
    Earn the trust
    Of the 99% --
    That's our intent!

    "I love this goddamn country, and we're going to take it back." -- Saul Alinsky OCcupy!

    by Seneca Doane on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 08:00:59 PM PDT

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    •  sigh... how many different angles and variations (1+ / 0-)
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      JVolvo

      can humanity design with the intent to subjugate women? And always it begins with control of our bodies. Cave-blanketed from head to toe and still even our very eyes are too wicked and "ask for it."

      Why should it matter whether it was just statutory rape... or violent forcible rape?

      Or whether the daughter was 15 or 19. The advice was still that the daughter was bad and the father has the right to inflict horrible actions upon her by virtue of his warped sense of morality and presumed right to control experiences affecting her.

      Medieval and primitive Neanderthal response to a young woman's coming of age and learning the beauty of life. And these men turn it into something very ugly and crush the flowering of her soul.

      And I know you have your lawyer's hat on with this Seneca.

      •  You're saying it's homophobic and misogynistic (1+ / 0-)
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        and aggravated assholery -- and I agree with all that.

        You're right that I have my lawyer's hat on, but it's not because I want to quibble.  It's because I think that when we start to say that someone has advocating raping a child, it should be the case that that person has really done so.  Guilty of A, B, and C, does not necessarily mean guilty of (even more abominable) D.  Charges should not be thrown around loosely.  We would not, on the evidence at hand, call him a "murderer" (even though young women have been killed in the process of rapes or have killed themselves as a result of them.)  If we did, we would undermine our credibility.  Our collective credibility is important to me.

        So, yeah, I'm scrupulous about such charges.  So sue me!  ;7)

        Democrats must
        Earn the trust
        Of the 99% --
        That's our intent!

        "I love this goddamn country, and we're going to take it back." -- Saul Alinsky OCcupy!

        by Seneca Doane on Tue May 01, 2012 at 12:42:44 AM PDT

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