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  •  What this issue has become (1+ / 0-)
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    Recalling Walker has moved from being an anti-Walker movement to a pro-union vs. anti-union issue in Wisconsin...at least for the most part.

    It's no longer all about Walker, the govenor, but about union power or lack thereof in the state of Wisconsin.

    - If you don't like gay marriage, blame straight people. They're the ones who keep having gay babies.

    by r2did2 on Wed May 02, 2012 at 06:16:11 PM PDT

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    •  That happened because Walker has had bottomless (2+ / 0-)
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      pockets to frame that message on the airways, 24x7.  I pray that after May 6 the winning Democrat has the ability, both personal "fire" and funds, to pound Walker's "framing" to splinters.  

      Since I did not see that "fire" in Barrett during the 2010 campaign, I am worried about another "kick-at-the-can" by him.  I hope he has it in him; I know Falk does and so does Vinehout.

      "I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in 'A,' 'B,' 'C,' and 'D.' Just who do they think they are?" Barry Goldwater

      by ranton on Wed May 02, 2012 at 06:51:39 PM PDT

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      •  It's interesting to me (1+ / 0-)
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        That Falk definitely has the fire but Barrett doesn't. Barrett lost by 5 to a very strong candidate in one of the most Republican years in American history. Falk lost to a complete meat head in one of the most democratic years in American history a year in which Jim Doyle won by 8 points which in WI is the equivalent of winning by 20.

        •  My sense is that undecided voters will not be (0+ / 0-)

          won by cool and calm; it is going to take someone who can show "passion" of conviction; someone who will call Walker out for his lies, ALEC agenda, rank partisanship, abuse of power, and his attempt to rule instead of govern.  

          Any voter that is still undecided is someone who has not been paying much attention; I doubt logic and politics as usual are going to win their votes.  Walker appeals to the lower instincts and emotions by scapegoating and dividing/conquering; "fire" or "passion of conviction" is the only thing that can get the votes of those kind of voters.

          Falk and Vinehout have attacked Walker with that "fire"; they have had to since neither is well funded.  Barrett did not show much of that in Western WI in 2010; however, he has in the last few weeks.  If he is the primary winner, he needs to continue...independent voters are sick of politics as usual.  

          "I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in 'A,' 'B,' 'C,' and 'D.' Just who do they think they are?" Barry Goldwater

          by ranton on Wed May 02, 2012 at 11:36:57 PM PDT

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          •  My sense is that (1+ / 0-)
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            Most voters when you mention ALEC they think Baldwin.

            First of all, I think most voters who are undecided right now are probably not going to turn out. It's a lot easier to not turn out for an election in June than one in November.

            And if it is Falk she'll be easily caricatured and all her fire isn't going to do her any good because she just isn't a good candidate as evidenced by her electoral record.

        •  Yes, Falk underperformed in 2006 (1+ / 0-)
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          behind other Dems, while Barrett did as well as Feingold, and both did better than Dems in legislature, losing both houses, in 2010.

          As for 2012, you apparently have not seen Barrett on the campaign trail.  Or check his ads.  The fire is there.

          More important, as well we have seen, governing is what we need, not just campaigning.  Falk's lack of legislative experience shows in her promises that other candidates wisely are not making.  We will not have accomplished the goal simply by getting a Dem governor.  We need a governor who knows how to get Walker's laws turned around -- and we're not going to get the Assembly.

          "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

          by Cream City on Thu May 03, 2012 at 04:39:57 AM PDT

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