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    I miss the most is the explicit balance of personal and social holiness.

    I worship in a Quaker meeting now, and while the tradition has a lot of examples of that balance in practice, it's not as explicit in theory, and it doesn't play out very well in my meeting.  And it is actually a difficult balance to strike.

    I suppose when it looks bleak, it's always good to go back to the roots and see if they're still living.  Reading a few Wesley sermons might not be a bad start.

    If religion means a way of life, and life's necessities are food, clothing, and shelter, then we should not separate religion from economics. - Malcolm X

    by dirkster42 on Thu May 03, 2012 at 08:31:22 PM PDT

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    •  I've actually done that... (7+ / 0-)

      ...gone back and read some Wesley sermons, some of the Standard Sermons, in fact. Some church members made the request, I think because they were afraid I'm not Methodist enough (I only claim to be an "amateur" Methodist). Surprise, surprise! Aside from the fact they needed some translation, my folk were stunned that social holiness went all the way back to the founder. Not that they accepted it any better, of course. But it's harder--a little--to argue that subsequent misguided generations got it wrong when you hear it coming from The Man himself.

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