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  •  An Occupy Constitution (9+ / 0-)

    Not in any sort of legalese, but

      -- Only people have fundamental rights, not corporations, coupled with publicly funded elections as a fundamental principle.

      -- A fundamental right to health care, maybe shelter.

      -- A much stronger limitation on the right to curtail protest than what is now considered proper with "time, place and manner" restrictions, and a much stronger limitation on "reasonable searches", because the Bill of Rights has not proved adequate.

      -- Provisions that would invalidate a lot of the NDAA, the Patriot Act, national security bullshit, etc, again, because the Bill of Rights has not proved adequate.

    •  I'd be interested (4+ / 0-)

      to hear the ideas in plain English and I wonder how we would translate them, if we have to, into "Constitutionalese."

    •  Constitutions can't (0+ / 0-)

      create fundamental rights.  If they are created by law, they can be many things, but they can't be fundamental.

    •  The Bill of Rights (2+ / 0-)
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      Lady Libertine, MindRayge

      isn't what has proved inadequate, jp, it's the people in the system fucking ignoring the Bill of Rights that's caused the problem.

      The Constitution is a contract, and it's gotten broken in many ways, many insidious, many so blunt I can hardly believe it. The powerful have decided that they do not need to abide by our social contract, including laws. That isn't the fault of the laws or of our founding documents.  It's the fault of those of us who let it get this far--and the more powerful we are, the more responsibility we hold for how badly things have gotten out of hand.

      Why would the people who break with one agreement ( the BOR) hold true to another, even if you liked the way it was stated better?

      What's destroying us is that a lot of really powerful people are not abiding by any standard, legal or moral, if it interferes with the expansion of their power. They don't care what the piece of paper says, and won't, no matter how you re-write it.  As Rothschild said, let me print the money and I don't care who writes the laws.

      Being ignored is the difference between being a one percenter and an American.--sweeper

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Sun May 06, 2012 at 02:08:12 PM PDT

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