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  •  Two different issues, basically unrelated. (4+ / 0-)

    Religions, from mainstream to insane, can call anything they want a 'sacrament'. Marriage has traditionally been one. So has death, and birth, and baptism. But I sure as hell don't need the Bishop's approval to die, or to have a child.

    The civil rights aspect of marriage equality have absolutely zero to do with the sacramental. I mean, c'mon. For many years the Mormons considered marrying 13 year old girls off to creepy old uncles with 3 wives already to be a 'sacrament'.

    My favorite bumper sticker of all time:
    "If men had babies, abortion would be a sacrament".

    •  Except not unrelated... (1+ / 0-)
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      Marriage has traditionally been one. So has death, and birth, and baptism. But I sure as hell don't need the Bishop's approval to die, or to have a child.
          Neither do you need formal permission from the state to die, or to have a child. And the state doesn't sanction the formal involvement of a religious official in those processes. Longstanding tradition and practice has conflated the secular and religious aspects of marriage  in the minds of many, and to them, a change in the civil aspect suggests that the religious aspect must necessarily change as well.
          Even though ministers are now free to refuse to marry any couple they don't want to provide services, the foes of same-sex marriage imagine that their church and their minister will be required to religiously sanction same-sex marriages, thereby infringing on their religious freedom.

      -7.25, -6.26

      We are men of action; lies do not become us.

      by ER Doc on Tue May 08, 2012 at 09:04:19 AM PDT

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