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  •  Thanks for the diary. The "It won't bother most (8+ / 0-)

    people" argument is particularly pernicious. I heard that argument in Maine in 2009 with our plebiscite--which in a way was worse than the NC situation because in Maine, our neighbors voted--narrowly--to take away rights for same sex couples that already existed, like in CA (except the law had not yet gone into effect, a decision that was made to avoid a CA type situation, a decision I referred to at the time as "mercy killing"--you know, we wouldn't want to hurt the feelings of gay couples by, like, making it look like anyone was actually taking away their rights*).

    I happen to be in Raleigh today, and accompanied my friend down to his polling place. At least by the yard signs in his neighborhood, lots of people here are against the amendment. I hope the people of NC get a nice surprise and the amendment is killed at the ballot box.

    *While I think civil rights are matters for the courts, not the voters or legislatures, I believe that states should pass laws requiring the bills to actually take effect before they can be recalled. People think differently then. Also, we have a referendum on our ballot in Maine this fall which would restore marriage equality to Maine. If it passes, and passage is looking possible right now, it would destroy the argument that whenever marriage equality has been put to the vote of the people, it always loses.

    Santorum: Man on Dog; Romney: Dog on Car. Ren and Stimpy: Dog on Cat

    by commonmass on Tue May 08, 2012 at 11:28:22 AM PDT

    •  This is the kicker (5+ / 0-)

      The Amendment screws with a wide range of rights for a wide range of people, hoping that gives cover to beating down on teh gayz.

      The Repub attorney was fracking lying and pretty happy to do so.

      •  Yes, it's much broader than just LGBT stuff. (7+ / 0-)

        As I see it, in a state which already has a law banning same-sex marriage, why do you need ANOTHER law in the form of a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage? Well, you need that to make sure that it's almost impossible it will ever, ever, happen. Talk about cruel.

        Of course, I assume that if it does pass, it can be repealed, but I don't know NC constitutional law. I assume it can be repealed by another amendment nullifying it down the road?

        Either way, I always thought NC was a little more relaxed than this. I guess I was wrong, and my friends here who are NC natives are very, very embarrassed about this whole thing. You should have seen how proud my buddy (who also happens to be my best friend, a colleague, and straight) was to come out of that voting booth and say "It felt good to vote against hate".

        Santorum: Man on Dog; Romney: Dog on Car. Ren and Stimpy: Dog on Cat

        by commonmass on Tue May 08, 2012 at 11:44:30 AM PDT

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        •  My take is this is the wheels are coming off (5+ / 0-)

          the gay-bashing train, though politically speaking it had a long run and worked in GOP circles very well.

          I literally saw my first VOTE FOR bumper sticker on a car this morning.

          If Repubs are showing up in droves they aren't going to own up to it even if they win the vote. People are tired of busybody bigots. They just are.

          Oh - choice line from attorney when tasked with why nine of ten law profs say Amendment One is "deeply flawed".

          He was asked "Why are they wrong and you are right?"

          His answer "Well, today's law schools have become bastions of radical activism.. yeah, I know, I was shocked to find out, too..."

          My jaw just dropped. I caught lots of sideways glances in the large crowd.

          if Republicans are now railing against the commie law schools like Wake Forest and Duke and UNC... whew. They got themselves a problem.

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