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  •  Oh, what b.s. (1+ / 0-)
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    Deep Texan

    2014 has actually been the goal since the very beginning.  The surge was - from the very beginning - only planned to last a short while, ie. long enough for the Afghan National Security Forces to gain enough manpower and quality to start taking care of matters themselves.

    "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

    by Lawrence on Tue May 08, 2012 at 01:17:39 PM PDT

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    •  The billions that have been spent by the USA alone (1+ / 0-)
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      in the attempt to accomplish that thus far has not been so successful. This year alone 12 Billion dollars.

      And once trained the Afghan government does not have the money to pay them.

      long enough for the Afghan National Security Forces to gain enough manpower and quality to start taking care of matters themselves.

      Pentagon Papers Daniel Ellsberg, “It was always a bad year to get out of Vietnam.”

      by allenjo on Tue May 08, 2012 at 01:32:20 PM PDT

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      •  I'd say that building a security force of (1+ / 0-)
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        almost 350k decently-trained Afghan soldiers and police within a period of just a few years actually is a pretty monumental success for Nato Training Mission - Afghanistan.  Especially since they are all scheduled to have basic literacy and numeracy by the end of the year.... and this despite only about 15% of recruits being literate.

        So what if the International community has to fund them for another decade to the tune of 3.5 billion/year?  We'd have to do that for half a century to equal what was being spent on wars by the U.S. in 2008 alone.

        "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

        by Lawrence on Tue May 08, 2012 at 02:02:39 PM PDT

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    •  Ok, then, an arbitrary bullshit goal... (0+ / 0-)

      ...that goes back to the beginning.

      Not sure what your point is here.

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