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  •  why such a big gap between (0+ / 0-)

    Durham and Orange counties? I thought they were demographically pretty similar. I mean I guess Duke is smaller than UNC but still.

    22, male, RI-01 (voting) IL-01 (college), moving to Japan in July, hopeless Swingnut

    by sapelcovits on Wed May 09, 2012 at 07:08:14 AM PDT

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    •  Far More Blacks In Durham..... (0+ / 0-)

      ....and of course blacks tend to be the most anti-gay marriage racial demographic.  I'm surprised it failed at all in Durham County.

      •  You do not know what you are talking about. (2+ / 0-)
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        Orange County went 79-21 against, Durham went 70-30. No other county in the state broke 60% and only one got above 55%. It was never going to be close in Durham County, and heavily black neighborhoods were filled with anti-amendment yard signs just like the rest of the city. To find the pro-amendment signs, you had to get out of the city limits and into the more suburban and rural parts of the county, which are mostly white and Baptist.
        "A witty saying proves nothing." - Voltaire

        by apostropher on Wed May 09, 2012 at 07:50:38 AM PDT

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        •  I Was Answering Somebody's Question..... (2+ / 0-)
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          .....about why it was closer in Durham County than Orange County, and I answered it correctly.  While you're technically correct that I "don't know what I'm talking about" regarding the specific culture of Durham County as I incorrectly believed the larger black population would produce stronger numbers for the amendment than it did, my response was nonetheless a pretty accurate answer to the above question, so the snotty retort was not necessary.

          •  Fair enough. (6+ / 0-)

            Sorry for the snippy tone. Nerves are a little frayed this morning, as you might expect. There is a concerted effort by the right wing to drive a wedge between black and white Democrats here, and we get a little defensive about the topic. Anyhow, it's the rural/suburban/urban split that is the important demographic variable in Durham, and it mirrors most of the rest of the state.

        •  9% points is 9% points. The question was/is (0+ / 0-)

          why the difference?

          I know the RW was trying to drive a wedge using the religiously-conservative aspect of a significant portion of AA voters against the Bible-damned gays (their angle, not mine).  

          Did it work?  What's the 9% difference?

          To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. - Theodore Roosevelt 1918

          by JVolvo on Wed May 09, 2012 at 10:20:15 AM PDT

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          •  Probably worth mentioning... (0+ / 0-)

            that Durham County has about twice the population of Orange County and is far less dominated by Duke (~15K students) than Orange is by UNC (~30K students). You're bound to get some amount of variation, especially in a primary election where turnout is much lower than it will be in November. But the two counties are consistently the two most liberal in the state on any given issue. Nobody can see who voted how so it's all conjecture, but I suspect the minor difference is being driven not by differences in racial composition, but by a relative difference in churchiness.

      •  I'm not sure but (0+ / 0-)

        I don't think it failed in Durham, wake or orange counties. Also other greater populated educated counties in nc did well too in terms of votes against the amendment.
        I do find comfort in knowing that Illinois, new York and other far more progressive states still don't have a pro equal marriage law. I am very proud of the DoD tho, I fully expect big changes to trickle down because of the repeal of don't ask, don't tell.

        •  huh? (0+ / 0-)

          this is all very confusing. If by "it" you mean Amendment One, of course it failed in Durham/Orange/Wake. And on what planet does New York not have a pro-equal marriage law?

          22, male, RI-01 (voting) IL-01 (college), moving to Japan in July, hopeless Swingnut

          by sapelcovits on Wed May 09, 2012 at 07:36:25 PM PDT

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      •  LOL what? (0+ / 0-)

        of course it failed in Durham County, it's the heart of the Research Triangle, tons of well-educated liberals.

        22, male, RI-01 (voting) IL-01 (college), moving to Japan in July, hopeless Swingnut

        by sapelcovits on Wed May 09, 2012 at 07:34:33 PM PDT

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    •  Not demographically similar at all (3+ / 0-)

      Orange county is very heavily white, more educated, and wealthier while Durham is majority minority and far more working class.  Additionally, UNC is a much larger proportion of Orange's population than Duke is for Durham.

    •  Demographics for Durham & Orange county (1+ / 0-)
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      registered voters, per the NC Board of Elections:

      By Party Registration
      Durham: 60% Dem, 15% Rep, 25% Una
      Orange: 51% Dem, 18% Rep, 31% Una

      By Race
      Durham: 52% White, 38% Black, 2% Hispanic, 9% Other
      Orange: 77% White, 12% Black, 2% Hispanic, 9% Other

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