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  •  Chill with the hostility. (5+ / 0-)

    We're all on the same bandwagon when it comes to equal rights...aren't we?

    I'm sure he's gained new-found respect from many voters and I'm certain he's helped to invigorate the youth vote with this announcement.

    •  I apologize if it sounded hostile, but stand by th (1+ / 0-)
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      e sentiment.

      BO just put his political future - and the party's - on the line for something that is right to do but frankly doesn't affect me at all ((other than I think America should actually do what it claims to stand and this is a step in that direction, so bravo! for that).  

      But, as I also believe that A Mr.1% and Thug win this election will be a disaster for me, my family, my future and my planet, I think asking for those he just put his neck under the blade for to not criticize his re-elect is asking for the least they could do.  'Course, I don't really expect it to take with some, even here.

      •  Dude. It WAS hostile. (9+ / 0-)
        So, from now until the election, I don't want to hear a single LGBT person saying any-fraking-thing against his re-elect and electing Ds.

        Not. one. thing. on. anythng.

        You no longer get that luxury.  He just hostaged his future - and mine - to your bandwagon.

        It's more magnificent with all the bolding and the aggressive punctuation.

        I think your analysis is wrong, but that's another story.  You've given no reason to engage you on the substance.

        What you wrote IS an enormous STFU to the gayz.  

        Have some decency and admit that you shit the punch bowl.

        •  You apparently have not been reading some of the (0+ / 0-)

          diaries and comments in the last 3 years here.

          You also apparently disagree not only with me but pretty much every analyst about how close this election is and will be and how risky this move is.  Not just for BO but for downballot Ds.

          Perhaps you live in an enlighted and solidly blue state.  It will just about wipe out any chance many Ds have in the red states.  The State where lots of us live.  And which Ds must win if they are to turn this country around instead of just go thru the same crap of the last 3 years for the next 5.  If you doubt how politically risky this is, I suggest you look at 2004 and 32 results in 32 ballot initiatives.

          You call it 'hostile', I call dramatic.  You call it STFU, I call it the minimum gratitude that decency calls for.

          I'd tell you where to put your demand I wear sack clothes and ashes .. but that would be hostile.

          •  Here's the thing. (2+ / 0-)
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            I get your concern.  I do see others stating your same worries.   I just don't think it's going to play out the way you do.  

            It's not 2004, and the gay wedge doesn't cut the same way it used to.  Even the vote in NC this very week doesn't fill me with all that much fear or Obama's chances, because while people may vote against gay marriage as an issue on a referendum, I don't believe that many people in the movable middle base their presidential vote on it.   I just don't.  Those for whom this is a deal-breaker were never going to be on his side.  A day later, you can see Republicans reeeeeaally wishing this story would go away, and for good reason: right when Romney needs to be pivoting toward the middle, he's stuck having to answer to his fringe-right masters on a social issue.  It's terrible for him.

            Here's a roundup of some of observations on this that paint a more optimistic picture of the consequences of yesterday.  


            They say it better than I do, and I hope you'll take a look at them.  I offer it not as a way to be right, but to try and reassure you that the President's doing right by the gays doesn't automatically spell doom and gloom for him or the party.

            As for the rest of it: I have seen the hostility over the last many years, and know how bad it can get.  But in general I find "other people are worse" to be an uncompelling defense.  

            Please consider the conversation you were actually in.

            In effect, you walked into a room where everyone is talking about how much they love Obama, and shouted at them that they better fucking never say a word against Obama ever again because they've probably ruined everything for everybody else with their whining for their special needs. Then you got defensive when everyone said "What the fuck?"  I think you made your point better in later comments, but by then everyone's hackles, including yours, were way up.

            But enough of that.  We said what we said.  We're on the same team here, for pity's sake.

            •  I appreciate your comments. (1+ / 0-)
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              Zooey Glass

              We'll see what the polls say -- and not just next week, cause this is going to be a in-church campaign (especially black churches, read up on OH-2004 if you don't know what I mean).

              I had a longer response but the machine ate it.

      •  You gave away the game here: (9+ / 0-)
        BO just put his political future - and the party's - on the line for something that is right to do but frankly doesn't affect me at all[.]
        Yes, well, God forbid that the president should concern himself with any issue that doesn't affect you personally.  Assuming you're male, should he stop caring about a woman's right to choose because it doesn't affect you personally?  Assuming you're not in a union, should he stop caring about labor rights, because those don't affect you personally?  Have you stopped to consider that politics is not all about you?

        "Ça c'est une chanson que j'aurais vraiment aimé ne pas avoir écrite." -- Barbara

        by FogCityJohn on Thu May 10, 2012 at 10:07:58 AM PDT

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