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  •  Claudius, does it make sense that some hundreds (0+ / 0-)

    possibly thousands of Quaddafis most reliable henchmen are in custody right now, and possibly will face a trial at some point down the road when a civil tribunal can be convened and evidence sorted out and presented to justify why these people are being held?

    They just didn't disappear and go away, you know.  The very wealthy probably have left with everything they can put their hands on, but many were trapped when Quaddafi was finally defeated.  Those that didn't get summary justice were incarcerated.

    That is a good thing, not a bad thing. At some point the values of really serious crimes versus the ordinary killings that happen in war will be sorted and most of these people will go home but some were criminals before the war to liberate Libya and compounded it by their acts during the war.

    That they are being held is a sign of normalcy at this point.  they weren't massacred in toto as so many Libyans were by Quaddafi forces.

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    by BeeDeeS on Fri Jun 08, 2012 at 05:33:38 PM PDT

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    •  The US tried that game in Iraq. You saw where (0+ / 0-)

      it got them. There has to be some reconciliation. Without it, there will be no healing, just revenge. Look to Misurata for

      Abdel Jalil wants what Libyans don’t: Reconciliation with Gathafi remnants
      2012-06-07
      ...
      "Abdel Jalil must explain the motives that prompted him to take this initiative without consulting the council," Intissar Al-Akili, a member of the ruling National Transitional Council (NTC), said.
      ...
      Sallabi said that he was tasked by Abdel Jalil to "hold talks with Libyans of the former regime to see how to... alleviate the suffering and bring together Libyans in a state of justice, liberty, equality and law."

      He added that the discussions centred on national reconciliation, reactivating the judiciary, and the right of the relatives of ex-regime supporters abroad to access consular services and participate in upcoming elections.
      ...

      Thousands remain in secret Libya militia prisons: UN
      May 10, 2012

      UNITED NATIONS — About 4,000 accused supporters of former dictator Moamer Kadhafi are still being held in Libyan militia detention centers, often in secret and many are tortured, a UN envoy said Thursday.

      Ian Martin, head of the UN mission to Libya, said good progress was being made toward the country's first democratic election, but militia prisons were one of a number of "serious obstacles" to establishing the rule of law.

      Libya is far from being stabilized at this time. Here's an interesting report from Benghazi on Thursday:
      Radical Islamists threaten Libya elections
      June 09, 2012

      TRIPOLI: Hundreds of armed men calling for Islamic law staged a demonstration Thursday in the eastern Libyan city of Benghazi, the latest sign of a growing Islamist push in the country ahead of scheduled elections.

      More than 300 men rallied in Benghazi’s iconic Freedom Square, some of them on vehicles mounted with anti-aircraft guns and heavy weapons, an AFP photographer reported.

      “We will not be under a government that doesn’t rule in accordance with what God has mandated [in the Koran]” and “Democracy is a Western system of government in contradiction with the Islamic way” read some signs.

      Other protesters had black banners with “There is no God but God” written in white.
      ...
      The National Transitional Council is also tackling periodic flare-ups of tribal violence, mostly in border areas linked to smuggling routes, deadly tensions rooted in differences of allegiance in the war and calls for autonomy in the oil-rich east.

      That they are being held is a sign of normalcy at this point
      Seven months after Gaddafi’s death, Libyan rebels still out for revenge

      A new video of torture in Libya has surfaced on the Internet. The victim is allegedly a former supporter of ex-Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi. According to our Libyan Observer, this kind of vengeful brutality often goes unpunished.
      ...
      One of our Observers in Misrata confirms that the accent of the men in the video matches that of his hometown. The men are dressed in military garb and accompanied by two teenage boys, who take turns beating the prisoner. The victim can be seen lying on the ground with his hands tied behind his back with wire (at 2’19 minutes, a guard can be seen tightening the binds.) His feet are bare, and tied to the branch of a tree. The men beat the soles of the prisoners’ feet repeatedly with a branch and a rubber stick while shouting obscenities at him.
      ...
      Of course, the brutality displayed by Gaddafi’s soldiers does not in any way justify the actions committed in this video. As a human rights lawyer, I believe that every person is entitled to a fair trial – and the justice system must decide what punishment to inflict. Unfortunately, the brutal methods employed by former rebels are no different than that displayed by Gaddafi’s soldiers. The two teenagers seen beating the prisoner in the video are proof of this.

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