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  •  Roman citizens BY ROMAN LAW could not (3+ / 0-)
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    be executed by crucifixion. The only time I've heard of it happening, it led to governmental upheaval.

    They were registering as subjects, not citizens, in the census. Jesus' status was that of a member of a downtrodden people in an occupied land.

    Citizenship was one of the things that set Paul apart from the rest of the early Jewish-origin Christians. It's why he could demand a trial in Rome. It's why simply mentioning his status flat out stopped a beating at one point in his ministry.

    Roman citizenship was a very big deal within the Empire

    Romans were very very touchy about who got citizenship and who didn't. It took tons of political maneuvering before all the Italian tribes got Roman citizenship, much less anyone outside the Italian peninsula. Considering the issues the Romans had in Palestine Province in the years before and after Jesus' life, Paul's citizenship would have been a rarity, not the local norm.

    A simple carpenter's son from a local trading area that had a history of getting on Roman nerves? None of the ways of getting citizenship would have been open to Jesus. He lived and died a citizen of nowhere and a subject under Roman rule.

    Prayers and best wishes to those in Japan.

    by Cassandra Waites on Sat May 12, 2012 at 09:36:14 PM PDT

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    •  Thank you so much (0+ / 0-)

      for proving your superiority so much over me.  You are to be commended.  

      /sarcasm (in case that wasn't evident in my response).

      It's about time I changed my signature.

      by Khun David on Sat May 12, 2012 at 09:40:40 PM PDT

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      •  Don't take it personally... (2+ / 0-)
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        .... but we need to be as accurate as possible when discussing *anything* pertaining to Xianity, esp. its history, so that The Forces of Darkness® are beaten back (and down) and know not to get back up after the intellectual beatdown.

        "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction." - Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pensées, #894

        by maf1029 on Sun May 13, 2012 at 01:56:46 PM PDT

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