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  •  So... you're a religious person who is firmly (0+ / 0-)

    convinced that yours is the true religion and all others are false?

    You are aware that this very attitude has caused a few minor problems throughout history, are you not?

    'Betting against Facebook since 2012'

    by VictorLaszlo on Mon May 14, 2012 at 04:19:01 PM PDT

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    •  not at all actually (1+ / 0-)
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      I'm a thoroughly modern man who believes in evolution, G-d as at best an abstract concept and firmly support gay marriage.

      I just happen to be very proud of my heritage and choose to keep the mitvos because I can - being Jewish and all.  It is my inheritance and I cherish it deeply.  But I didn't throw out my brain because I put on a pair of tefillin and a black hat.

      True or false doesn't matter to me in the slightest in terms of theology.  Using my Torah to prop up abuse, lies and distortions does very much.  Christians lie about Torah text, cultural context and insist it is literally true - but not right since they weren't included.  That's a theology problem not of my making, not of my concern and as I can read Hebrew - makes no sense.

      Most of us don't consider it to be literally true - but it's ours, that much we all agree on.  It is the myths and longings and stories of our ancestors.  It is our heritage and the key to our identity as Jews, whether we are orthodox or completely secular atheists or somewhere inbetween.

      Christian abuse and projection is something I have no stomach for anymore.  Someone has to point out they are standing on sand because they can't read.

      And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

      by Mortifyd on Mon May 14, 2012 at 04:32:21 PM PDT

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      •  Well said... (1+ / 0-)
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        A powerful statement... and true.

        Most Christians are too lazy to even go back to the original Greek to study their own texts or study the culture from which it came.

        That is a pity as there are no some really great on-line  concordances now available that can take them into the Greek translations as well as cultural anthropologist commentaries to help discern the context.

        In stead they rely on "New Translations" which usually are dumbed down versions written by the hands of lesser men with little spiritual insight and frequently one hell of a social agenda.

        And truth be known... few ever read those beyond pulling a few choice lines out of context to hurl at someone.

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