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  •  as we get into summer (14+ / 0-)

    These shows will become more important as the still #1 source of political news for the lo-info crowd who will tune in enough to reinforce the vague narratives they glean from water-cooler convos, Drudge headlines seen on co-workers' computer screens, and the like. This demographic carries elections.
    As such they are important.

    Example;
    1. nobody could have missed POTUS declaration on Marriage equality.
    2. Village narrative is this is going to cost him in the election.
    3. people like to vote for the winner.

    Therefore, the official narrative is both untruthful (per polling so far) and damaging to Obama and the dems in general.
    This is not journalism. This is the 1% using their privately owned information monopolies to change the realities they don't want.

    They should be held to a standard of truth, but failing that (done deal) they should be called out for their bias (RW, not LW) and for burying stories like this. Failing that, (also done deal) it falls to places like this one to counter the official, false narratives with the truth. And to highlight the numerous stories that get buried because they conflict with that false narrative.
    So, it is important what does and does not make it into the Sunday blab fests, not least to give blogs the clarion call to fill the gaps and rebut the lies and omissions.

    Class war has consequences, and we are living them.

    by kamarvt on Tue May 15, 2012 at 10:29:41 AM PDT

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    •  research papers have pointed out (4+ / 0-)
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      time and time again.

      the more Dems complain about it, the worse it gets.

      -You want to change the system, run for office.

      by Deep Texan on Tue May 15, 2012 at 10:48:16 AM PDT

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    •  In other words, if you predict the future (5+ / 0-)
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      loudly enough, with sufficient racism and prejudice, you may be able to affect, or to justify, the result.

      No one wants to vote for a loser.
      And..
      The power of ppstive poppycockery.

      H'mm. I'm not terribly into this, anymore.

      by Knarfc on Tue May 15, 2012 at 11:11:34 AM PDT

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    •  They aren't the low info crowd (6+ / 0-)

      If they tune in to Sunday talk they are the very well-informed opinion leaders in their circles. The low info crowd doesn't watch any non-entertainment TV, read any newspaper, or hear anything more on issues than can be squeezed into a 3 minute news break on their favorite radio station.

      from a bright young conservative: “I’m watching my first GOP debate…and WE SOUND LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE!!!!”

      by Catte Nappe on Tue May 15, 2012 at 11:41:49 AM PDT

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      •  it's all relative (4+ / 0-)

        relative to us, they're lo-info.
        Relative to people who cannot name their own Senator, they are hi -info.
        As such, they can be opinion-shapers for the truly lo-info. They can motivate people to vote or to stay home, and whom  to vote for or against.
        All the more reason why dismissing what they see and hear is a bad idea for activists like the denizens of DKos.

        Class war has consequences, and we are living them.

        by kamarvt on Tue May 15, 2012 at 12:10:03 PM PDT

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        •  Exactly (6+ / 0-)

          A number of commenters asked "eh, who watches those shows anyway", and one of my answers was "people who vote, and people who influence people who vote". It's the same problem with folks who blow off the usefulness or value in talking to lo-info voters in their own midst, or (shudder) Republicans they know. At the most basic level those are the minds we need to change - not just on specific votes, but on community consensus on issues. And what they see on what they believe to be serious and unbiased TV is part of that messaging.

          from a bright young conservative: “I’m watching my first GOP debate…and WE SOUND LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE!!!!”

          by Catte Nappe on Tue May 15, 2012 at 12:22:22 PM PDT

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