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  •  No, let's throw everything out the window (0+ / 0-)

    and let the Republicans back into the White House and take a stand over this issue, why don't we.

    Jeez Louise this site sucks anymore.  I can't believe all these effing keyboard kommandoes who sit on their effing asses tippy tapping out their disappointment in Obama over this issue or that while he has been going toe-to-toe with Boehner and McConnell and Ryan, et al., on a daily effing basis, accomplishing all this in spite of unprecedented obstructionism.
    It's beyond disgusting.  If Mitt Romney wins in November, some of the blame must surely fall on the shoulders of the petulant progressive purists, and yes, Rovian moles, who have taken over this and other liberal blog sites.

    Look, Obama lost more votes than he gained with his stand on marriage equality.  
    What else is left for Obama to give away the farm over?

    Catch a clue.  Look beyond the end of your nose.  Look at the long game.

    Fish or cut bait.

    Grab a mop.

    Unfortunately, President Obama doesn't have time to read DK, so contact him here: The White House, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20500 (Postcards, not letters! Please give your email address.) -- 202-456-1111 -- FAX: 202-456-2461

    by My Left Behind on Thu May 17, 2012 at 12:06:03 PM PDT

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    •  When three fourths of the public (1+ / 0-)
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      supports something then you don't lose votes by supporting it.  That's exactly the sort of issue you should take a stand on.  It's exactly the sort of issue that a smart campaign manager would tell you to take a stand on.

      There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

      by AoT on Thu May 17, 2012 at 12:13:47 PM PDT

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      •  That three fourths is not accurate. (1+ / 0-)
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        Look above to see how the poll was worded.

        That does not mean that 74% of Americans would support President Obama if he came out in favor or legalization, which is how most Americans would perceive it if he stopped federal enforcement.

        And nationwide support for legalization is only at 50%
        http://www.gallup.com/...

        The GOP would make an incredible amount of hay over this issue, especially on the heels of Obama's statement on same-sex marriage.

        Unfortunately, President Obama doesn't have time to read DK, so contact him here: The White House, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20500 (Postcards, not letters! Please give your email address.) -- 202-456-1111 -- FAX: 202-456-2461

        by My Left Behind on Thu May 17, 2012 at 12:33:58 PM PDT

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        •  I'm simply not swayed by the claims (1+ / 0-)
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          that it would be some huge impediment to the campaign.  Mostly because this was what he promised during his first campaign and he didn't start the prosecutions until a couple years in to his term.  Honestly, what this really does is hurt down ticket races in places like California where Obama is assured victory but the progressives aren't

          There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

          by AoT on Thu May 17, 2012 at 01:02:55 PM PDT

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          •  Carter Camp said it succinctly above: (1+ / 0-)
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            the us atty's and leftover gop/ doj stay behinds have had a lot to do with the crack down, setting Obama up as a betrayer of the left and calculating/challenging he won't do anything in an election year:

            1.if he does, they whine and loudly

            2. if he doesn't, cool with them, they will be able to split and derail electoral support on the left...and  they still confiscate yer money and property, several agencies split the take
            eg: in Humboldt County the DA got $500,000 from the proceeds of the county drug squad. Add the lawyers, real estate agents, private and public agencies that gain from prisoners (Wells Fargo) and it's all good if yer a greedy repub fuck.

            I think it's all a calculation and politics, and I hope Obama can make something positive out of this, because the cost is insufferable.

            From those who live like leeches on the people's lives, We must take back our land again, America!...Langston Hughes

            by KenBee on Thu May 17, 2012 at 05:55:10 PM PDT

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      •  assuming facts not in evidence (1+ / 0-)
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        as others have said, the poll puts the question out there in the abstract. its quite another thing to ask people that question after the POTUS has taken a policy position, put it on the national agenda, and the other side begins their counter attack.

        All I am saying is that both questions (policy & political) need to be considered. I suspect that may of those 75% would also readily agree that its not good use of POTUS time when the economy sucks or that he's setting a bad example for his own kids after 4 days of GOPer scumbags and their mouthpieces making that charge.

        •  Given that it was a position he campaigned on (0+ / 0-)

          in 2008 I'd say we already have the answer to the worry about voters being against it.

          There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

          by AoT on Thu May 17, 2012 at 01:08:56 PM PDT

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          •  and then the economy blew up (1+ / 0-)
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            and the GOPers took the house in 2010 and since then we can't even get the debt ceiling raised without it being a fight, each one taking more out of the political capital coffers.

            so I ask again, where on the pecking order does this issue belong relative to all the other priorities and political stances this president can take in an election year?

            •  As far as I'm concerned this *is* important (1+ / 0-)
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              and given that it isn't a campaign killer as some are frantically suggesting I'd say that alleviating the pain and suffering of sick or dying people is rather important.  And that's what these raids are denying people, medicine.

              If it is so unimportant how is this going to lose the election?  Are loads of people really going to turn out to oppose Obama because some folks in Oakland didn't get raided by the feds.

              There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

              by AoT on Thu May 17, 2012 at 01:31:55 PM PDT

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              •  exactly! (1+ / 0-)
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                good framing, yet the news about med mj arrests always..wait...ALWAYS include other charges where operators do something that justifies that harshness.
                  Implications and claims of commercial sales and  the like are part of the plan.

                From those who live like leeches on the people's lives, We must take back our land again, America!...Langston Hughes

                by KenBee on Thu May 17, 2012 at 06:00:21 PM PDT

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              •  all I am saying is that those who (1+ / 0-)
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                passionately care about this issue are not seeing the political risks it still caries. and I am saying that my support of the policy change is reflected in the polls you cite, but that my concerns about the political risks to the WHOLE progressive agenda are not captured by those polls.

                in an environment where common sense economic stimulus can be turned against the POTUS who stopped an economy in free fall, there is nothing that can't be turned into a political weapon. this issue certainly can and anyone who wants to proceed with it without acknowledging the risks is kidding themselves.

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