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  •  I'm surprised at how long this diary is (2+ / 0-)
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    JVolvo, Neuroptimalian

    given it seems to have been written by a 14 year old, using one hand.

    Sigh. Where to begin...

    First of all, the misandrist stereotypes of straight men... that they are stupid. That they are bumbling cretins in the bedroom. That the only anal sex they desire is to be on the giving end of an anal rape.

    I would tell you that instead of putting up such a gratuitously graphic, rude, and factually inaccurate piece of rubbish on Daily Kos, to take this diary to ErosBlog, but Bacchus is far more of a gentleman, a scholar, and a grown up, and he'd kick your ass sideways far, far better than I could for such juvenile tripe.

    As it is, as a sex-positive grown up, you've earned my HR, for the above reasons.

    “Five exclamation marks, the sure sign of an insane mind.” ― Terry Pratchett, Reaper Man Political Compass: -8.50, -6.46

    by Cinnamon on Fri May 18, 2012 at 06:37:39 AM PDT

    •  Why do you hate gay marriage? (n/t) (1+ / 0-)
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      maf1029

      12 years with Parkinson's disease made me retire, but it didn't stop me. Visit my home page at The Ex-Examiner Examines the News.

      by Bill Schmalfeldt on Fri May 18, 2012 at 06:44:08 AM PDT

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      •  I am very much FOR GLBTQ equal rights (2+ / 0-)
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        JVolvo, Wee Mama

        including gay marriage. And anyone who doubts my support can check my comment history.

        “Five exclamation marks, the sure sign of an insane mind.” ― Terry Pratchett, Reaper Man Political Compass: -8.50, -6.46

        by Cinnamon on Fri May 18, 2012 at 06:46:54 AM PDT

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        •  Good for you (3+ / 0-)

          It was hard to tell through the vitriol in your comment.

          12 years with Parkinson's disease made me retire, but it didn't stop me. Visit my home page at The Ex-Examiner Examines the News.

          by Bill Schmalfeldt on Fri May 18, 2012 at 06:53:05 AM PDT

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          •  Bill. Settle down. I can't tell how much of this (3+ / 0-)
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            porn diary is your text and opinion and how much is LGF obscenity/fantasy.

            Either way, your graphic description of - and blanket assertion that 'we all have/want to hurt our partners' via - coercive/non-consensual painful penetration is ripe for pushback.

            Now I see your comment below "Poor Cinnamon / Shame on you, Cinnamon".

            You, the writer, are responsible for how easily your piece is read, understood or misunderstood, right?  I'm sure J school doesn't teach 'Fuck 'em if they don't get it', right?

            Insulting long-time kossacks who critique your/LGF (I can't tell) assertions about painful sex is not a winning strategy here.

            Good luck.

            To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. - Theodore Roosevelt 1918

            by JVolvo on Fri May 18, 2012 at 04:50:07 PM PDT

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            •  J school DOES teach... (0+ / 0-)

              ...that if one attempts satire, one has to accept the fact that there are people whose rigid minds won't have the required flexibility to comprehend it.

              I suppose it's like caviar.  To some who have the palate for it, it's a delicacy.  To others, it's just gooey fish egg jelly.

              12 years with Parkinson's disease made me retire, but it didn't stop me. Visit my home page at The Ex-Examiner Examines the News.

              by Bill Schmalfeldt on Sat May 19, 2012 at 03:21:38 AM PDT

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              •  NOTE TO SELF: (0+ / 0-)

                Per JVolvo's comment...

                Stop having respect for people's intelligence.
                Write down to the stupid.

                Got it.

                12 years with Parkinson's disease made me retire, but it didn't stop me. Visit my home page at The Ex-Examiner Examines the News.

                by Bill Schmalfeldt on Sat May 19, 2012 at 03:23:11 AM PDT

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                •  Bill. This is not facebook. Stop being a (3+ / 0-)
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                  condescending asshole.  There are tons of shades of gray here - so much more than just fans and flamers.  Your tone is not winning you readership.  

                  I say that because in the past you've kvetched in your intros 'maybe this will get some attention' as if we are too stupid to recognize your genius.  Hint: hundreds of diaries are posted each day.  Great ones/great topics can slide right off the list with little notice.  DK is that big.

                  I know you've done great work: exposing the racist and anti-govt fucks hating on Obama.  You dug into the spider web of who was behind the fake Occupy WI webpage that tried to punk petition gatherers.  The Operation Burn Notice assholes.  I've appreciated your tenacity when grappling with RW fuckheads.

                  And I submit, respectfully, that the accumulated battles with those virulent haters has impacted your outlook.

                  Not everyone who disagrees with you here = those RW fuckheads.  This is a very diverse community.  The LGBT, anti-misogyny and anti-violence folks have taught us white guys a ton about respecting different pov/life experiences and how we white guys can be oblivious to what is harmful/disrespectful of (any) minority's experiences.

                  Please take this to heart.  There are tons of great people here.  Don't fight with them.  Keep your skills aimed at the RW sociopaths who want to destroy our country.

                  To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. - Theodore Roosevelt 1918

                  by JVolvo on Sat May 19, 2012 at 08:27:29 AM PDT

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                  •  Jvolvo, this is not Junior High School, so... (0+ / 0-)

                    ...enough of the finger-wagging sanctimony.

                    I don't believe I equated the disagreers with RW fuckheads. And my shot here was aimed straight at the heart of those RW sociopaths you mention, but members of the Perpetually Offended Liberal League jumped in front of the arrow and took the shot instead.

                    You know nothing about the battles I've fought over the years, for decades before there WAS an Internet, against hate in all its forms.  And now, fighting what my own body is doing to me.  Don't presume to know anything about me that I have not shared with you.  You know nothing of my "outlook" or what shapes it.

                    All I have left to fight with are words.  And, gosh durn it, I will fight on my terms.  Those who don't like it are not my enemies.  I am clear as to who my enemies are.  Those who disagree with me have the right to do so.  I would rather not have to deal with stupid people who think that I am saying it's OK for men to ass rape their wives or anyone else, for that matter.  Only a stupid person could read what I wrote and come away with that.  I will blame it on a temporary flare up of "teh stoopid" which happens to us all.

                    But I can do without the huffing and puffing and gasping and choking and the righteous outrage and garment rending of the people who should be on my side because I am CERTAINLY on THEIRS!

                    As I shall always be.  Even when I write things that may be beyond their ken, I will write.

                    It's all I got left.

                    12 years with Parkinson's disease made me retire, but it didn't stop me. Visit my home page at The Ex-Examiner Examines the News.

                    by Bill Schmalfeldt on Sat May 19, 2012 at 02:35:23 PM PDT

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              •  And then there are those (0+ / 0-)

                Who mistake dingle-berries for caviar, as you might put it.

                What about my Daughter's future?

                by koNko on Sun May 20, 2012 at 06:20:35 AM PDT

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