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  •  I think there's a difference... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...between praying for someone's soul or wishing for non-believers to go to heaven, and retroactively converting them to your own religion.

    It's the difference between "God, please let this person in despite their having not been a member of the religion I think is the right one," essentially asking for God to have mercy on them, versus "God, this person is now a member of the religion I think is the right one, despite having never actually been a member of that religion in life."

    The former is an acceptance of the person's choice of their own religious viewpoints in life and asking God to be merciful; the latter is a rejection of the person's choice of their own religious viewpoints in life.

    That, to me, is the difference between the Roman Catholic practice of praying for the dead (which I also don't find offensive) and the Mormon practice of baptizing people in their place.

    "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

    by JamesGG on Fri May 18, 2012 at 11:44:01 AM PDT

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    •  It is just a matter of how Mormons prey for others (1+ / 0-)
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      and their god. Nowhere do I see Mormons asserting the deceased was ever a believer.  In my mind, just a prayer with greater effort.

      Their understanding of baptism is just different than various other Christian groups believe, and the various Christian groups don't have a common understanding of what baptism is.  Some believe in baptism for infants, where there is no real content or belief, while others do not.

      The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

      by nextstep on Fri May 18, 2012 at 12:05:44 PM PDT

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    •  Personal choice (0+ / 0-)

      From what I understand, the Mormon baptism doesn't convert someone into a retroactive Mormon. It allows them to have some of the benefits of Mormons in the after life - if they choose. They can decline. The baptism just makes them "eligible" in a way.

      from a bright young conservative: “I’m watching my first GOP debate…and WE SOUND LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE!!!!”

      by Catte Nappe on Fri May 18, 2012 at 01:44:49 PM PDT

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