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  •  He wants to put the deer on private land (7+ / 0-)

    owned by the rich, so that hunters have to pay to hunt the deer. There are other things involved in terms of the hunters not being able to shoot the deer and skin it and take it home. This is what he did in Texas where people have to pay to hunt, sort of like paying to go to Disney World.

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    by rubyr on Sun May 20, 2012 at 08:41:03 PM PDT

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    •  Um explain this to the city kid... how does one (3+ / 0-)
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      GET the deer onto the private land?  Sort of sounds like herding cats to me?  Seems very weird to me.

      Not doubting you at all, it's just not getting through my apparently thick head.

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      by auron renouille on Sun May 20, 2012 at 08:57:09 PM PDT

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      •  I don't know the details. In Texas they (6+ / 0-)

        managed to get all types of African wildlife onto the private land and people go there and kill the animals. If they can get wild animals from Africa to Texas, they can figure out a way to move the deer OR they will buy the public land where the deer are now and privatize it.

        "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

        by rubyr on Sun May 20, 2012 at 09:56:44 PM PDT

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        •  They actually pay (3+ / 0-)
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          big bucks to fence these ranches in to keep the wildlife in. It's an expensive proposition....one reason it costs so much to hunt in Texas.

          •  Yep. I saw a program about the people who (1+ / 0-)
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            are trying to return the animals to the wild and they gave a
            lot of background. It was sickening, IMHO. Greedy people who put a good face on what they are doing when there is nothing at all good about it.

            "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

            by rubyr on Mon May 21, 2012 at 10:24:45 AM PDT

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        •  Or they could just sell off (0+ / 0-)

          the public lands where the deer already are, to plug Walker's budget deficit caused by the tax cuts for the ultra-wealthy. Imagine taking your family camping in non-hunting season only to find a "Private Property -- Trespassers Will Be Prosecuted" sign on the road to your favorite state park facility.

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          by Cali Scribe on Mon May 21, 2012 at 12:05:04 PM PDT

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      •  Let me try to explain... (6+ / 0-)

        Deer are a 'resource' managed by the state ("DNR" agency).. the state manages the herd mainly by tweaking the hunting license structure - some years, there are more "doe permits" because killing a female deer has a greater impact on  population/ reproduction..  bow and arrow season may last shorter or longer, and multiple permits may even be granted to hunters when the population is too high.  

        The thing is, you are allowed to hunt on private and public land, and the agency controls the licensing.  What this guy likes is to ban hunting on public lands (actually, preferably sell the public lands, to forestry interests or now "game camp" companies).  You'd pay one of these companies for the right to hunt on their land.  If you own your own land or get permission from friends to hunt on their land, then the licensing structure would still be eliminated or tweaked in such a way as to maximize profit for the special interests.

        The "game farms" would engage in things that are currently not legal on public lands, like baiting deer to make them easier to shoot (and offer deer cleaning services, etc.)  This can be used to make deer hunting seem more "accessible" to out-of-state tourists (probably targeted to Chicagoans who haven't hunted before due to the hassle of, you know, waiting all morning for a deer  to walk by your tree stand and not having a guide).

        For the poor, formerly middle class of Wisconsin (ie. paper mill workers, as I can relate from my childhood), this means of sport but also feeding the family will be put out of reach for those who have no lands or friends' lands to hunt on.

        I grew up on Wisconsin venison, so much so that when I was out on my own cooking ground beef for the first time I called my mom because I didn't understand why the meat was forming a grease puddle as it cooked.  My dad bought 80 (cheap) acres of woods just for deer hunting and firewood, when I was older.  He hunted public lands and relatives' parcels before then.

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