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  •  I admire the optimism, (1+ / 0-)
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    ljcrazyhistorian

    but people don't really change. Not like in TV and the movies.

    You could get someone to change if they are only ignorant. Like some moron who is like "I don't like gay people, that seems weird and strange and I don't like the idea of that."

    Those people aren't necessarily evil, they're just stupid. It's classic cultural-sheep-syndrome, for people who don't think outside of their own experiences and culture. That will be changed as being gay is more mainstreamed, and people can understand it and are exposed to it. That will totally eliminate that sort of problem.

    Those are hearts and minds you can change, because they aren't hateful religious bigots, they are just clueless. They don't hate, they just don't understand and reject something unfamiliar and unusual.

    But when you get some Jesus-freak asshole screaming about their diety and hell, when you're talking about true believers, religious cultists.

    Yeaaah, that's a dead end. One in a billion chance (and I'm being generous) someone like that would have a change of heart. It just doesn't happen with any degree of measurable frequency.

    People just don't change.

    •  You're right. I've frequently been told (2+ / 0-)
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      bythesea, Prinny Squad

      that I am too optimistic for my own good. :-) I like to see myself as someone who knows how bad it really is, yet remains hopeful.

    •  I agree to an extent, but I have seen people (4+ / 0-)

      that used to be homophobes come to change or moderate their views, sometimes to a surprising extent.  I say that as someone who is hardly an optimist generally.  I think it would be more true to say that people don't usually change all that much...

    •  Of course ppl change, just not all whom you WANT (2+ / 0-)
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      ljcrazyhistorian, OrdinaryIowan

      to change. Damned inconvenient of them, I say.

      In my own family, 3 racists have repented -- only one of whom might have qualified as, to use your phraseology, "clueless."

      And I had to bite my tongue when 3 die-hard right-wing family members "converted" to my side of the political fence -- even turning their backs on their once-beloved Saint Ronald -- after they each suffered enormous financial and/or health setbacks that brought home to them how fragile we and our material "powers" are. So pleasant to be free of their scorn and derision after decades of pressure and even outright verbal abuse.

      I think back to George Wallace and Lester Maddox, some of the Solid South's most rabid segregationists -- quite a stretch to call them "clueless" -- repenting of their virulent racism. I think of friends and acquaintances who discovered God after years of confirmed and even rabid atheism; or who were religious -- even screaming Jesus-freak assholes -- and awoke one day with no God in their life. I know a goodly number of us who have recovered from addictions to alcohol, sex, tobacco, and meth; and/or decades of mental illness, and almost all have undergone a revolution in our assessment of human worth.

      People do change, even when people who haven't yet changed insist that people don't change.

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