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  •  what's the difference, then? (1+ / 0-)
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    I'm sure most of them aren't saying "wait, I'll accuse this person of racism to gain rhetorical advantage!" It's nothing so conscious as that. But it seems an accusation that flies too easily. As, I might add, do accusations of sexism and homophobia.
    I happen to think this is exactly how racism on the left works, for instance.  I'm not alone.

    so what's the difference between saying that, and saying what you just did?  why's one ok, and one not?

    btw yes to this:

    Or are you taking issue with the motives I'm imputing to those who make inappropriate accusations of racism?
    because,, as you say... that's what we're talking about.  motives and what we get to say about others'.

    This comment is dedicated to my mellow Adept2U and his Uncle Marcus

    by mallyroyal on Tue May 22, 2012 at 09:10:58 AM PDT

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    •  I'm happy to admit (0+ / 0-)

      that I could be wrong about the motives. I don't think I am, but I could be. And I would never (ever) make a blanket accusation (e.g. everyone who accuses of racism is just trying to gain rhetorical advantage)(those who disagree with me are making accusations of racism to try to gain a rhetorical advantage), or even a targeted one (e.g. you are accusing of racism to gain rhetorical advantage [and to be clear, that's a generic you]).

      I think you're making a false equivalence as I'm describing something that happens without accusing or imputing any particular group of people or any individuals. I'm just saying that I think some accusations of racism are intellectually dishonest and manipulative. I'm not pointing fingers. I'm not accusing anyone in particular.

      Unless you believe that NO accusations of racism are EVER intellectually dishonest and manipulative, I have trouble seeing what the issue is.

      "Heterosexuality is not normal, it's just common." Dorothy Parker

      by dedmonds on Tue May 22, 2012 at 09:20:28 AM PDT

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      •  was waiting for this: (0+ / 0-)
        I'm happy to admit that I could be wrong about the motives.
        good.  'cause outside of Beverly Hills Cop's funnier moments, I've never seen race used like that.  in other words, it's my opinion that doesn't happen in REAL life, and it's further my opinion that only someone to whom racism is an abstraction would believe that it did.

        This comment is dedicated to my mellow Adept2U and his Uncle Marcus

        by mallyroyal on Tue May 22, 2012 at 09:36:01 AM PDT

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