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  •  Wait... you mean (1+ / 0-)

    empty rhetoric that has never been acted on like this:

    "Wherever Iran interferes, it announces it in a very straightforward manner. For instance, we interfered in confrontations against Israel, which resulted in the (Lebanese) victory in the 33-day war and (Palestinians' victory in) the 22-day (Gaza) war," Ayatollah Khamenei said, addressing millions of Friday Prayers worshippers on Tehran University Campus in February.
    So you are saying that Iran HAS NOT acted militarily against Israel even though it's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khameini admits to it?

    Interesting.

    •  Iran has never attempted to wipe Israel off the (0+ / 0-)

      map.

      The instances you cite were actions to remove Israel from Arab land (Gaza and Lebanon).  Not Jewish land.  So your example makes no sense.

      Anyhow, do you want me to count the times that Israel has launched terrorist attacks on Iran through its proxies and directly?

      Furthermore, I have already stated that Iran has terrorist proxies in and around Israel (i.e. Hezbollah).

      •  Wait.... Gaza was an "action" removing Israel (2+ / 0-)

        from Palestinian land? So... am I to understand that S'derot, and Ashkelon ARE NOT Israeli territory? Who knew?

        As for Lebanon... So the kidnapping and execution of Israeli soldiers in 2006 that led to the Lebanon II was to toss Israel off of Lebanese land.

        You have an interesting take on this.

        But yeah Iran has NOT tried to wipe Israel off the map.. yet. My point was that they have been involved militarily against Israel and now they are making threats. Do deny that?

        You can certainly list off Israeli attacks on Iranian scientists and part of the effort to create nuclear weaponry. However, that is a false equivalency. If wanted to create that, you would have to list how many verifiable Israeli attacks there were on Iranian cities.

        •  I don't support those actions (1+ / 0-)
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          And I don't deny that.  But you are way overexaggerating the threat.  You are making inappropriate connections and assumptions.

          You can certainly list off Israeli attacks on Iranian scientists and part of the effort to create nuclear weaponry. However, that is a false equivalency. If wanted to create that, you would have to list how many verifiable Israeli attacks there were on Iranian cities.
          Well firstly there is no evidence they are making nuclear weapons.  Israel is killing Iranian scientists to stop a peaceful nuclear program.  And many of those attacks on Iranian scientists were on Iranian soil.

          Secondly, that is my point.  You can engage in military actions without attempting to wipe a country of the map.

          •  What "inappropriate connections" am I making? (0+ / 0-)

            Well, the Israelis and Western Intelligence thought they were. Who here denies that Israel has taken shots at Iranian scientists.. Not me. I don't even think the Israelis are denying it.

            BUT The Israelis are NOT shooting rockets into Israeli cities as Hamas and other militant groups did. That is something that Iran is actually taking credit for.

            As for this:

            Secondly, that is my point.  You can engage in military actions without attempting to wipe a country of the map
            .

            Of course you can... hence my comment:

            But yeah Iran has NOT tried to wipe Israel off the map.. yet. My point was that they have been involved militarily against Israel and now they are making threats. Do deny that?
            Let me break this down for you....  While Iran has not YET tried to destroy Israel, can you see how given their previous military involvement coupled with their elminiationist rhetoric and attempts at acquiring Nuclear Power would make Israel nervous. Simple question. Yes or No?
            •  So then your response is a non sequitur (0+ / 0-)

              Anyhow as to your question:

              Nervous? Yes.  Aggressive and war mongering? No.

              One is a rational response, one is irrational.

              •  Actually my answer is right on point. (0+ / 0-)

                Again, I ask:

                What "inappropriate connections" am I making?
                Please elaborate.

                Again, I am not sure who you are arguing with? I am really curious. Because you sure aren't arguing with me.

                •  Sorry, but my irony meter is pegging. n/t (0+ / 0-)

                  “What’s the use of having developed a science well enough to make predictions if, in the end, all we’re willing to do is stand around and wait for them to come true?” - Sherwood Rowland

                  by jrooth on Tue May 22, 2012 at 06:44:14 PM PDT

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