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  •  People who believe this crap (9+ / 0-)

    are conflating the rise in the debt and deficit under Obama (most of which was directly or indirectly due to Bush policies that Obama inherited or has been trying to fix, sometimes with spending or borrowing) with a rise in spending.

    It's like selling a house full of dynamite to someone and blaming them for the explosion the day after they moved in, while trying to remove the dynamite.

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Tue May 22, 2012 at 04:18:15 PM PDT

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    •  Even worse still... (2+ / 0-)
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      rennert, codairem

      If Obama loses, the centrists in the party that Obama bowed to (or maybe he just hung out with them because he liked them) will point to his loss and say, "See, we need to be more conservative because we can't be the party of profligate spending anymore!"  

      •  I disagree with that one (0+ / 0-)

        If (god forbid) Rmoney wins, the next 4 years will be awful and the in the next campaign a centrist argument will not be favorably received.  But that is no reason to hope that happens.

        •  I thought that too: After 8 years of Bush (3+ / 0-)
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          Dumbo, OleHippieChick, mithra666

          surely people are ready to try something different?  Yet not a single progressive idea was tried.  Hell, not a single Clinton-era idea was tried, in the economic domain, even though times were good under Clinton.  I'm afraid what it boils down to is this:

          Until we change media ownership and the fact that lies and distortions can be broadcast 24/7, things won't improve.

          Silvio Levy

        •  Take the above paragraph, (3+ / 0-)
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          ScrewySquirrel, mithra666, Joe Bob

          and substitute Bush for Romney, and tell me if you still think that couldn't happen.  Because it did already.  The people who run this party are as well-entrenched and difficult to remove as barnacles on a blue whale's taint.

          I still recall when we made those big Congressional and Senate wins in 2006.  We can thank two people for that: George W. Bush for being such an unmitigated asshole, and Howard Dean for fighting and pursuing a 50 state strategy that the taint barnacles like Rahm Emmanuel and Ed Rendell were saying that it was a disastrously bad idea.  Late election night, when it was obvious we had pulled off a major win, Rahm Emmanuel was putting out press releases congratulating himself for his keen wisdom in promoting centrist blue dog candidates like Heath Shuler (who later betrayed us on key votes and then decided even later to not run again, big gain there, huh?)  of whom he was particularly proud.  In fact, that became the dominant media message for the next two weeks: How Democrats had recovered the House BY MOVING TO THE CENTER AND AWAY FROM THE LEFT.  That was the message that they wanted to put out, and they succeeded in that, and everybody on the left was so busy congratulating themselves and having an after-sex smoke that they didn't watch what was happening.

          I tell you... the worst screw jobs of the Democratic Party come in November right after the elections.  That's when the professional barnacles really do their worst stuff, and nobody pays any attention to it because we're all pooped from working to elect people.

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