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  •  sadly we often forget the other victims too (13+ / 0-)

    Jews were not the only target of the death camps-----gays, gypsies, the disabled and mentally ill, Freemasons, Jehovah's Witnesses, union organizers, socialists and communists (especially Red Army POWs) were all targeted too. The percentage of some of those groups that were killed off approaches that of the Jews. Yet the Holocaust museum here in St Pete FL makes only a passing reference to all these other victims (in a panel explaining what all the different color triangles worn in the death camps meant). Sadly, many of the groups that were deliberate targets of the Nazis are still vilified and targeted today by the rightwingers, here in the US.

    That is not to minimize the Holocaust---it is to expand it to its true level of horror and destruction. The deliberate manufactured death produced by the Third Reich was even higher than most people realize.

    •  My maternal grandfather (9+ / 0-)

      was killed by the Nazis before the war because he was an outspoken monarchist - he apparently wanted the Kaiser or an heir reinstated. As a good Lutheran Prussian he was horrified and disgusted that a Catholic from Austria was running the country.

      When I told my wife, who is Jewish and who lost many relatives from her parents' and grandparents' generations to the camps, she just nodded and said, "One of the other six million".

      Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað

      by milkbone on Thu May 24, 2012 at 07:27:58 AM PDT

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    •  Agreed... (8+ / 0-)

      That came up here in NYC when a particularly vile local politician, Dov Hikind, tried to prevent a Holocaust memorial from mentioning non-Jews, calling it a "uniquely Jewish event."

      Needless to say I slammed him for that.

      FREEDOM ISN'T FREE: That's why we pay taxes. I Had A Thought

      by mole333 on Thu May 24, 2012 at 10:35:09 AM PDT

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    •  Logged in to rec this. (5+ / 0-)

      I visited Dachau and took a photo of one of the explanatory panels that mentioned the first arrivals were leftists.

      The fact that we overlook the hatred towards liberals by those on the far right in our teaching of the Holocaust is a tragedy. As you say, it isn't to diminish the almost-extermination of European Jews, but to tell the whole story.

      The Holocaust wasn't just about the Jewish people. I don't have any problem with us maintaining the focus on the Jewish population, but we do need to emphasize and explain the disgusting extent of this crime against humanity.

      It really should be in the minds of every leftist, socialist, communist homosexual, trade unionist, and any of the other groups which were targeted for extermination that we are perceived as archenemies of the far right. It won't just be the Jewish people who suffer if we see another regime like this. (Remember the Bolsheviks murdered and exterminated millions as well...)

      A Victory Garden documents our experience transitioning from suburban lawn to edible food forest based on permaculture principles.

      by FinchJ on Thu May 24, 2012 at 01:23:59 PM PDT

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      •  I thought I should also add, for those who have (5+ / 0-)
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        not been able to visit any of these camps- labor, extermination, or otherwise- that the experience is unforgettable.

        The same feelings of dread, sorrow, and utter disbelief- yes, disbelief, can be felt by visitors/mourners separated by decades. I say disbelief because the full measure of what happened strikes to your very core as a human being. That we did this. Humanity can do this. Utterly deflating. The range of emotions are well beyond those I listed.

        I spent about half and hour in a small "music" room crying my eyes out alone at Dachau. It still brings tears to my eyes to think of that place.

        A Victory Garden documents our experience transitioning from suburban lawn to edible food forest based on permaculture principles.

        by FinchJ on Thu May 24, 2012 at 01:29:00 PM PDT

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