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  •  Sorry, your update is specious (0+ / 0-)

    You've "made up your mind" - you just aren't getting the whole hearted support for your conclusion you'd hoped for.

    And yes, it does

    Wonder if this applies to Biden/Vice Presidents.
    It applies to any national level surrogates of the Presidential campaign.

    from a bright young conservative: “I’m watching my first GOP debate…and WE SOUND LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE!!!!”

    by Catte Nappe on Thu May 24, 2012 at 05:44:19 PM PDT

    •  Excuse me, (2+ / 0-)
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      Catte Nappe, but where the hell does this comment come from? You and I often agree, in other threads, and I have treated your every comment here with respect.  Why would you make a nasty comment like this?

      Contrary to your idea that you know what I'm thinking, let me set you straight.  I am one of the 11 in my own poll who checked "can't decide."  And I'm still there, although with a lean to no.

      I came to this poll with absofreakinglutely no pre-conceived conclusions. That's one of the reasons I wrote this diary.  As I said in my diary,  I was more interested in hearing other people's opinions than in opining on my own, in this case.

      What this diary has taught me is that this is a complex issue, and people are pretty split on it.  Which underlines my reservations, on both sides.

      So please, leave your "specious" accusations behind. I don't think I deserved that, and I'm going to speak up and say so.

      •  I apologize - and withdraw the "specious" (0+ / 0-)

        It is quite possible that you don't recognize the preferred leaning that you are expressing in your comments.
        Someone posted

        We are past the time when we ....should concern ourselves with what the President, the DNC,   DCCC, or anyone else should or could do.
        And you responded
        There's still time.  But you are entitled to your opinion.
        Someone else posts
        Obama, Clinton, Carter, Dean, Biden, Kerry ...put them all on a plane and get them to WI.
        and you reply
        Loving this idea
        Or this exchange
        the surrogate idea feels right to me too. ....Also adding Wisconsin's battle into his speaking around the country seems very right.
        Yep. ...Definitely not hearing enough of that.
        or this one
        I don't care if Obama comes...I would like that...but we need some national Democrat like Bill Clinton to join the battle
        I agree.
        And most recently
        If Joe Biden were to speak [followed by long fantasy speech that would be totally inappropritate
        but you reply
        Do you have a wire tap ...on my dreams? :)  
        You have a desired outcome to this discussion, whether you see it or not.

        from a bright young conservative: “I’m watching my first GOP debate…and WE SOUND LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE!!!!”

        by Catte Nappe on Thu May 24, 2012 at 06:17:03 PM PDT

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        •  I can do without (3+ / 0-)
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          this nopology, followed up with your arrogant conclusion that you know me and my thought process, better than I do. No matter what I say.  How freaking dare you?  Now you've got me steaming like a tea kettle.

          You have cherry picked my responses here.  Look at my recs and comment responses ALL THROUGH THIS THREAD, and you'll see I've been pretty equal opportunity to arguments on BOTH sides.  Including my responses to YOU, which you oddly have not included here.  You know, where I asked you questions, listened to your answers, and then told you I was basically leaning no? Remember that?  Or no, not so convenient to the point you want to make here, which is to tell me how I think. Could you POSSIBLY be more insulting?  How would you like it if I told you you don't know what you really think?  GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ, Catte Nappe.  Give me a break.

          In my perfect world, Democrats would stand up for democrats, Biden would be able to come here and make the speech Maverick suggested, Obama would not be as restricted as he is.  What I dream of, and what I know is possible are two different things.

          I do support some surrogacy efforts, think it would be a good add on to the effort.  But it doesn't have to be Obama, or Biden, still not sure it should be, regardless of what you, my real brain apparently, has to say.  

          Hell it doesn't have to be anyone. Because if it doesn't happen, I'm pretty happy to leave things in the hands of my stalwart and amazing Wisconsin activist friends here and in Wisconsin in general.

          •  This we can certainly agree on (1+ / 0-)
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            I'm pretty happy to leave things in the hands of my stalwart and amazing Wisconsin activist friends here and in Wisconsin in general.
            The people of Wisconsin have set a new standard for engaged citizenship that will hopefully be a model for many states and communities.

            Again, i am sorry for causing the tea kettle reaction. Somehow what I have tried to convey is not coming across as I intended. I'll leave it at that, so as not to make matters worse.

            from a bright young conservative: “I’m watching my first GOP debate…and WE SOUND LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE!!!!”

            by Catte Nappe on Fri May 25, 2012 at 07:32:12 AM PDT

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